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02.01.21, 15:07 - +44 7563 201744: Ophaga Bastimentos for sale
02.01.21, 15:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hallo Frohes Neues Jahr was kannst Du mir an Bastimentos ANBIETEN?
02.01.21, 15:15 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Bitte welche Farbschlaege hast Du zur Abgabe und bitte wie Euer?
02.01.21, 15:51 - +44 7563 201744: Frohes neues Jahr. Oophaga pumilio 'Bastimentos Gefangener gezüchtet.
02.01.21, 15:52 - +44 7563 201744: £85
02.01.21, 15:54 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Was heißt Gefanvener bitte welche Farbe u d wieviel hast Du?
02.01.21, 15:56 - +44 7563 201744: Captive bred
02.01.21, 15:56 - +44 7563 201744: 10
02.01.21, 15:58 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Ja haste Gelbe. Gruene. Bräune. Weiße?
Weiße auf jeden Fall.
02.01.21, 16:01 - +44 7563 201744: Ja, ich habe gelb, weiß.
02.01.21, 16:06 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Super also auch rein Weiße und helle gelbe.?
Haste bitte mal evt Fotos
Gelbe und weiße intressieren mich sehr.
02.01.21, 17:28 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Also grosses Intresse habe ich auf alle Fälle an weiße. Wieviel haste denn davon?
02.01.21, 20:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hei Frage wann kannst Du denn Nachzuchten in weiß abgeben?
02.01.21, 21:58 - +44 7563 201744: Ich habe 10 zur Verfügung. Ich kann es versenden, sobald die Zahlung eingegangen ist.
02.01.21, 22:21 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Also weiße oder?
02.01.21, 22:22 - +44 7563 201744: Ja.
02.01.21, 22:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Okay Sagmal sind da auch Paare bei evt.
02.01.21, 23:00 - +44 7563 201744: OK
03.01.21, 14:06 - +44 7563 201744: Ich spreche Englisch und benutze den Übersetzer, um Sie zu kontaktieren.
03.01.21, 14:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes hello greetings As I said, I am very interested in white Bastimentos also very much for pairs but also for offspring in white. Did you have a photo for me? And how do I get the animals here to Neukirchen Vluhn that is here near Duisburg? And are there any other colors? But what is important for me is Pure White Bastimentos.
Please, where are you from, so I'm very interested.
Greetings Rolf
03.01.21, 14:42 - +44 7563 201744: There are best and wonderful shipping company, I normally use USHIP shipping company to get the animals to your destination anywhere in Europe. 3-5 business days.
03.01.21, 14:42 - +44 7563 201744:
03.01.21, 14:43 - +44 7563 201744: UK
03.01.21, 14:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay but say the photo please, the two animals aren't Ophaga Pummi lo Bastimentos but Galactonotus? And how does the transport work and what does it cost?
03.01.21, 15:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so frog friend I am looking for Ophaga Pumilio Bastimentos poison dart frog in white and yellow and also other colors.
03.01.21, 15:22 - +44 7563 201744: The cost of shipping depends on quantity
03.01.21, 15:25 - +44 7563 201744:
03.01.21, 15:26 - +44 7563 201744:
03.01.21, 15:26 - +44 7563 201744:
03.01.21, 16:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- great animals but the red one is a bastiment, clearly you also have it in white or yellow?
And please the others what is that great?
03.01.21, 18:32 - +44 7563 201744: The others are oophaga
03.01.21, 18:32 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I have yellow and white.
03.01.21, 18:38 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Okay kann ich von Dir auch ein weißes Bastimentos Paar bekommen oder nur Jungtiere?
03.01.21, 18:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- can I also get a pair of white Bastimentos, i.e. 1/1 or just young animals?
03.01.21, 18:40 - +44 7563 201744: Yes you can a pair of white bastimentos
03.01.21, 18:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay so I could get a white pair what should that cost? Another thing for Ophaga please are photos 17 and 18, the color beauties And please send me a photo of the Bastimentos couple in white.
03.01.21, 18:46 - +44 7563 201744: €200 for the pair
03.01.21, 18:47 - +44 7563 201744: I tried to send photos again
03.01.21, 19:00 - +44 7563 201744:
03.01.21, 19:02 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- 200. _ Euro for a safe white Bastimentos pair is okay if it's a 100% pair.
03.01.21, 19:02 - +44 7563 201744:
03.01.21, 19:02 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is 100% pair
03.01.21, 19:03 - +44 7563 201744: 200€
03.01.21, 19:12 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- exactly that is the pure white bastimentos that I mean, I would have a pair in any case exactly in white. And what are the others for which. Are there any Ophagas, please?
03.01.21, 19:13 - +44 7563 201744: Yes there are other
03.01.21, 19:13 - +44 7563 201744: I have pair of the white
03.01.21, 19:14 - +44 7563 201744: The others I sent you.
03.01.21, 19:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes i have the photos so i just wanted to know but they are not bastimentos right?
How can we stay now or how do we do that, please I would like the White Bastimentos couple.
At the moment, nothing is going on here because of Corona.
What do you propose the white couple, I would like to.
03.01.21, 19:25 - +44 7563 201744: I can get it shipped to you successfully despite the pandemic, animals are been shipped like other products.
03.01.21, 19:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay and what does it cost?
03.01.21, 19:28 - +44 7563 201744: The price for the white pair bastimentos including shipping is 300€
03.01.21, 19:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay at the moment we have snow here and minus 5 degrees.
Furthermore, I get the animals straight to my home or do I have to pick them up somewhere or how does it work?
03.01.21, 19:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim --
03.01.21, 19:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Was ist das für einer auch Intressant für mich
03.01.21, 19:35 - +44 7563 201744: You will receive the animals straight to your home address.
03.01.21, 19:36 - +44 7563 201744: Dart frog/oophaga
03.01.21, 19:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes okay but which ophagas are they please also interest me.
And I can get the Basti couple up to the apartment when it's cold or do I pay and we wait?
03.01.21, 19:41 - +44 7563 201744: Oophaga pumilio
03.01.21, 19:42 - +44 7563 201744: You can pay for them then when you are ready we will proceed with shipping immediately.
03.01.21, 19:43 - +44 7563 201744: We can ship them with UVB enclosure so that the can be warm and comfortable till the arrive.
03.01.21, 20:34 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- could you please tell me what kind of ophagas or possibly also histis you have.
03.01.21, 20:52 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- how and where do I have to transfer?
And which United Kingdom is that, please?
And again the photos 17 18 what kind of ophagas are they and what do you have for FROESCHE please.
03.01.21, 20:54 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- please tell me your zip code.
03.01.21, 21:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim --
03.01.21, 21:11 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Bitte was für ein Ophaga ist das?
03.01.21, 21:15 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- where please or to which address should the amount be sent?
Of course, the bank details would still be interesting for the purpose of transfer. And how do you proceed with shipping?
03.01.21, 23:05 - +44 7563 201744: Oophaga pumilio bastimentos captive bred.
03.01.21, 23:06 - +44 7563 201744: Here is my address in United Kingdom and postal code:
121 honor Oak Park upper maisonette, SE233LD london UK.
03.01.21, 23:07 - +44 7563 201744: Here is my bank details for the transfer :

Name: Arendina Jentina Veenstra

IBAN: DE09110101002899425731

BIC: SOBKDEBBXXX
03.01.21, 23:08 - +44 7563 201744: I will ship with USHIP shipping company
03.01.21, 23:09 - +44 7563 201744: As soon as payment is confirmed and received I will ship to the address you will provide.
03.01.21, 23:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what other kinds of Ophaga do you have?
03.01.21, 23:16 - +44 7563 201744: The other pictures I sent you are the ones I have the red, yellow and other.
03.01.21, 23:21 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that means the two colorful animals are also about Bastimentos?
Or maybe they are COLUBRE
03.01.21, 23:22 - +44 7563 201744: Bastimentos
03.01.21, 23:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, you might have a safe pair of for delivery?
03.01.21, 23:28 - +44 7563 201744: Yes
03.01.21, 23:28 - +44 7563 201744: Pair of the red?
03.01.21, 23:29 - +44 7563 201744: Or yellow?
03.01.21, 23:29 - +44 7563 201744: You want the white pair and what other pair?
03.01.21, 23:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- first of all for sure the white couple no question.
03.01.21, 23:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim --
03.01.21, 23:34 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim --
03.01.21, 23:34 - +44 7563 201744: I have pair too.
03.01.21, 23:34 - +44 7563 201744: I have pair too
03.01.21, 23:34 - +44 7563 201744: 200€ for pair
03.01.21, 23:35 - +44 7563 201744: 200€ for pair
03.01.21, 23:36 - +44 7563 201744: Total of 850€ including shipping for all of them
03.01.21, 23:36 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- What is das Reine Bastimentos?
03.01.21, 23:37 - +44 7563 201744: The white, red and yellow.
03.01.21, 23:44 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, I would like to have the absolute white Bastimentos pair first, because I am waiting for more terraces from my glasses. I would like to pay a part so that I have the animals safe. Is that possible? At the moment this is too cold for me and TERRA has not yet started.
03.01.21, 23:45 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright.
It is possible.
03.01.21, 23:49 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay i know
What else can I get for FROESCHE in Pummis or Ophaga and Graniluferus?
03.01.21, 23:50 - +44 7563 201744: Only oophaga
03.01.21, 23:55 - +44 7563 201744: Good night
04.01.21, 00:02 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay good night see you tomorrow
04.01.21, 15:18 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hello frog friend I will transfer you a deposit for the safe white pair of Ophaga Pumilio Bastimentos this week so that I have it safe. Is that okay and then a little later the rest and then you can send.
04.01.21, 16:14 - +44 7563 201744: It is OK. You can send deposit to my bank account details I gave you yesterday.
04.01.21, 16:14 - +44 7563 201744: Please send screenshot/receipt of payment sent.
04.01.21, 16:59 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, I'll let you know I'll transfer a deposit by the end of the week.
Do you only have Bastimentos or other Ophagas please info.
Do you also have Histironica?
04.01.21, 17:02 - +44 7563 201744: OK
Like I told you the bastimentos and oophaga I have is what I have sent you.
04.01.21, 17:03 - +44 7563 201744: No I don't have Histironica?
04.01.21, 17:06 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, I would very much like to keep in touch with you and if you have any news I would like to hear from you again and again.
04.01.21, 20:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So since we have some of our glaziers and very little work I get my ordered 5 new Terra only pieces. Well this month definitely a new one I hope for 2.
That’s definitely safe for the White Bastis that I’m going to take from you. But I would also like to secure the other couple picture 18 at a later date. Approx. In mid-February as I expect more terraces. Because this blue frog a pair appeals to me. Of course I also need papers for the white bastis because we have to report them to the species protection authority. I hope you hold a pair back for me until I have the other Terras.
Greetings Rolf
04.01.21, 22:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- ask if you ship on Mondays when would the animals be at my home?
04.01.21, 22:34 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright you can save my phone number.
04.01.21, 22:35 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I will do that, I will hold it for you.
04.01.21, 22:36 - +44 7563 201744: It will arrive on Thursday - Friday.
04.01.21, 22:47 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I think it's great of you that you do that and accept our frog friendship, I am pleased. And please keep me up to date if you have anything new about Ophaga animals.
But as I said, I always need papers because we have to register here, but you know that. What is important now is the absolute pure white Bastimentos pair.
04.01.21, 22:49 - +44 7563 201744: The papers is quarantee I will send it with the animals there shouldn't be any problems.
04.01.21, 22:50 - +44 7563 201744: The white bastimentos pair is ready for you and I will always keep you updated if any oophaga.
04.01.21, 22:59 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that's absolutely great and very fair from you. Will you actually get 0phaga Escudo Koi? It's just a question?
04.01.21, 23:03 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I do
04.01.21, 23:06 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- do you have Escudo Kois yourself?
04.01.21, 23:07 - +44 7563 201744: Yes
04.01.21, 23:09 - +44 7563 201744: I didn't say it because you said you want to order first the white bastimentos pair first.
04.01.21, 23:11 - +44 7563 201744: Good night
04.01.21, 23:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes of course only the white bastimentos clearly.
Good night
05.01.21, 18:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hello my dear, I just paid a deposit of 100 euros to the account you sent me for the Bastimentos pair of white So that I have the pair safe. Please let me know when the amount is in your account. Question would it also be possible that I can get a second white female with the pair, i.e. 1/2
05.01.21, 18:46 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright I will let you know when it arrives but can I see the receipt of payment sent.
05.01.21, 18:48 - +44 7563 201744: You want female of white bastimentos?
05.01.21, 18:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no, of course I want the couple to be very clear and if possible, a white woman if possible.
05.01.21, 18:51 - +44 7563 201744: OK
05.01.21, 19:01 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- would that work?
05.01.21, 19:02 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand, you want another pair of bastimentos?
05.01.21, 19:06 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- ask we now have Lokdoun extension until January 31, 2021 you can send later although Corona.
Is that possible with you?
05.01.21, 19:06 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is possible
05.01.21, 19:07 - +44 7563 201744: Can I see the receipt of the 100 euros you sent?
05.01.21, 19:07 - +44 7563 201744: Send me the receipt.
05.01.21, 19:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So then please look tomorrow after I made an online transfer tonight that should be on your account tomorrow.
Then again I clearly want the white Bastimentos pair plus a single white female. Is that possible?
05.01.21, 19:37 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I hope everything worked out and sent it online to the Iban address as a deposit. Must be on your account tomorrow or OVER tomorrow.
05.01.21, 20:32 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is possible. The total cost remaining will be 350€
05.01.21, 20:33 - +44 7563 201744: If it is possible as you did it online I will like to see the transaction to confirm it and make sure the IBAN is correct.
05.01.21, 22:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So today I transferred 100 euros as a deposit and please check your account tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. Please.
Please let me know exactly as follows to the Iban account sent
De 09110101002899425731
Arena Jentina Veenstra.
05.01.21, 23:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- please let me know okay
05.01.21, 23:46 - +44 7563 201744: I will
05.01.21, 23:47 - +44 7563 201744: I will let you know when it arrives.
05.01.21, 23:55 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay that would be nice and correct.
06.01.21, 11:12 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning, are you -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- ?
06.01.21, 11:38 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good morning yes that's me.
06.01.21, 11:39 - +44 7563 201744: I received 100EUR
06.01.21, 11:39 - +44 7563 201744: The total remaining balance will be 350EUR.
06.01.21, 11:43 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay then you get 250 euros from me and then send the animals off is the right thing.
06.01.21, 11:44 - +44 7563 201744: No 350 euros
06.01.21, 11:44 - +44 7563 201744: You said you want one female white
06.01.21, 11:55 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay say how old is the couple that i get and have they already had offspring?
06.01.21, 11:59 - +44 7563 201744: A year old
No offsprings
06.01.21, 12:02 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- but 100% a harmonizing of the couple?
06.01.21, 12:22 - +44 7563 201744: Yes
06.01.21, 12:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So Okay so if the white couple is only 1 year old and is together then please first I take the couple without another woman because the two should first become a unit so that they harmonize together. Would be important to me. First of all, that's important to me.
Then I saw the other Ophagas that you have pictures 17 and 18 that interest me a little later when I have the other Terra also very much.
Especially the picture No. 18 is clearly an Ophaga Colubre for me and I am also interested in a couple of. But first of all the pair of white bastimentos because nobody else has them here.
06.01.21, 13:14 - +44 7563 201744: OK its alright.
06.01.21, 13:15 - +44 7563 201744: To understand you clearly, you want only the pair of white bastimentos right?
06.01.21, 13:15 - +44 7563 201744: You no longer need the female right?
06.01.21, 13:38 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So it looks like Corona is here with companies and so everything is very, very bad so that I have to wait with my new terrariums. I'm waiting for 4 new terraces from the glasses and that can take until the end of January because nobody is working at the moment. I still have one dendrobarden terra 50x50x50 cube free and the white Basti pair should go in there. Unfortunately I have to wait for the others. And then I would like another pair of picture 18 Ophaga Colubre this mixed blue and Evt. Another white Bastimentos woman if possible. But first the white Bastimentos pair for 300 euros including shipping.
06.01.21, 14:38 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright.
06.01.21, 14:39 - +44 7563 201744: Irrespective of the lock down animals can still be shipped.
06.01.21, 14:40 - +44 7563 201744: Yes 300 euros for the white bastimentos pair but you paid only 100 euros, remaining balance of 200 euros.
06.01.21, 14:58 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes frog friend I know that I will send the rest of 200 euros I would like to wait a little longer because the Terra is still coming in. Don't worry, everything comes. And I will also like written meinTerras all there are more than pairs to buy from you .. The next then in any case an Aa from picture 18 Ophaga Colubre that's for sure. But for that I need terraces or do you have fully furnished terraces for sale for me.?
06.01.21, 14:59 - +44 7563 201744: I have some available.
06.01.21, 15:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that's great then I have the chance to get a safe pair of it in the foreseeable future, right? Again, the question that interested me. Besides the photos you sent me, other Ophaga species, please send photos. I'm very interested.
Because you have super animals.
06.01.21, 15:17 - +44 7563 201744: I will send you the photos. What about the terrace?
06.01.21, 15:18 - +44 7563 201744: Where are you getting your terrace from?
06.01.21, 15:25 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I get my terrariums here normally from glasses which, like all other shops except food shops, are initially closed until February and don't work. Now I have to wait or have you fully arranged some for me.
06.01.21, 15:50 - +44 7563 201744: I can do that for since you are buying animals from me.
06.01.21, 15:50 - +44 7563 201744: I will also offer you good prices
06.01.21, 16:12 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- make me an offer and show me by photo what your terras you are offering look like and how big for Ophagas.
Imagine Glasterra at least 50x50x50
06.01.21, 16:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- and what should the fully set up costs for you?
06.01.21, 17:23 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So sieht das im Augenblick hier so aus bei uns in Germany.
06.01.21, 17:25 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- this is what it looks like here in Germany at the moment.
06.01.21, 18:08 - +44 7563 201744: I will send them to you.
06.01.21, 18:16 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what do you want to send me?
06.01.21, 18:35 - +44 7563 201744: Pictures of the terrace
06.01.21, 20:36 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Build and set up Terra
06.01.21, 21:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- you send me photos of the Ophagas that you all have.
07.01.21, 08:27 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning.
07.01.21, 08:28 - +44 7563 201744:
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07.01.21, 08:29 - +44 7563 201744:
07.01.21, 09:36 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good morning beautiful area and above all super animals but there aren't all the ophagas you have right?
The terrariums are as poured and what do they cost?
07.01.21, 12:19 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is not all.
07.01.21, 12:19 - +44 7563 201744: The cost 350 euros.
07.01.21, 12:34 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay und wie eklig ist das Terra?
07.01.21, 12:35 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Completely planted or empty?
07.01.21, 12:49 - +44 7563 201744: Completely planted
07.01.21, 12:49 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand, how do you mean gross?
07.01.21, 16:21 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- i h mine the size or dimensions of the Terra. What big ones do you have for your pummies?
07.01.21, 17:03 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- You also have an important question about Ophaga Escudo or Escudo Koi
07.01.21, 18:18 - +44 7563 201744: 200 inches
07.01.21, 18:18 - +44 7563 201744: What question?
07.01.21, 18:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So the question is whether you have an acquaintance Ophaga Escudo is urgently looking for a female.
07.01.21, 20:25 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- https://www.facebook.com/100002388656134/posts/3756335891122662/?sfnsn=scwspwa
07.01.21, 20:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Do you get this Ophaga Art or do you even have it?
07.01.21, 22:41 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I have it, I told you I do.
07.01.21, 22:41 - +44 7563 201744: I have it.
07.01.21, 22:46 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So you may have a pair of this frog too? Like that in the photo?
07.01.21, 22:46 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I do
07.01.21, 22:46 - +44 7563 201744: I will advise
07.01.21, 22:47 - +44 7563 201744: If you have the money order all the oophaga you need so that I will ship it, it will also reduce cost of shipping
07.01.21, 22:47 - +44 7563 201744: I will give you good discount
07.01.21, 22:52 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that's all no problem just have to know whether you have the FROESCHE too. And I can get them from you as a couple, I mean the green Ophaga Graniluferus Quepo the photo I sent do you have that as a couple?
07.01.21, 22:57 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I have the FROESCHE, green oophaga quepo couples available.
07.01.21, 23:07 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay how expensive the pair would i get?
07.01.21, 23:09 - +44 7563 201744: 300 euros
07.01.21, 23:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- the couple? Do you have the Red Gofio too?
08.01.21, 10:42 - +44 7563 201744: Yes the couple.
08.01.21, 10:42 - +44 7563 201744: I don't have that.
08.01.21, 11:00 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay so the green Ophaga Graniluferus Quepo but don't have the red one? Please have a photo of the green for me if I can.
08.01.21, 11:46 - +44 7563 201744: Yes
08.01.21, 11:48 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I would be happy thank you.
08.01.21, 11:55 - +44 7563 201744: OK
08.01.21, 12:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello my find and I really would like to know what you have or can get in Ophaga animals. I think with you I have found the right breeder who has a gold mine of Ophaga species.
Please let me know what you have or what you can get my dear?
08.01.21, 13:37 - +44 7563 201744: I will let them for you all oophaga and prices.
08.01.21, 13:38 - +44 7563 201744: I will list them for you.
08.01.21, 15:26 - +44 7563 201744: Oophaga Graniluferus Quepo.
Oophaga Escudos Koi.
Oophaga Colubre.
Female Oophaga Bastimentos.
Oophaga Lehimanni
Oophaga histrionica Anchicaya
Oophaga Arborea
08.01.21, 16:05 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that's just super honestly have a question about the Ophaga Lehman are the reds or the yellows
And please what does the Histironucus look like? And for me the prices per pair stay the same?
08.01.21, 16:06 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I don't know Ophaga Aborea either, I don't know what they look like.
08.01.21, 16:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what you have there are just diamonds and jewels in all honesty and I will definitely take some of them that will have to wait when I have all the terraces but then I pay the animals to which I want. Of course photos would be very nice if possible.
08.01.21, 18:48 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I'm excited
08.01.21, 23:29 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- everything okay?
09.01.21, 00:22 - +44 7563 201744: Oophaga histrionica Anchicaya look like oophaga arborea. There color is different but somehow like the bastimentos
09.01.21, 00:23 - +44 7563 201744: Yes everything is okay, I was attending to some business.
09.01.21, 00:23 - +44 7563 201744: I am transporting animals to Austria and Malta.
09.01.21, 00:24 - +44 7563 201744: The histrionica and arborea are more expensive than the rest.
09.01.21, 00:29 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay but like dear one is an Escudo Koi couple for me and a Lehman I in yellow or red
09.01.21, 00:29 - +44 7563 201744: Yellow and red
09.01.21, 00:29 - +44 7563 201744: I have couples for both.
09.01.21, 00:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- price for me like Basti. Entos?
09.01.21, 00:35 - +44 7563 201744: I will offer you the oophaga Lehmanni €300 for the pair.
The Escudos Koi is €200 for the pair.
09.01.21, 12:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hello my friend Super Your selection, I'm enthusiastic and will definitely take some. Would you be able to send me some photos for example Escudo Koi and Lehmanni and Histironica?
09.01.21, 12:52 - +44 7563 201744: I will do that
09.01.21, 12:55 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I am happy, thank you and I am very excited.
09.01.21, 13:18 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Tell me, please, the Red Ophaga Lehmanni is actually difficult to hold. What does he need especially or just like Bastimentos?
09.01.21, 13:23 - +44 7563 201744: No it is not difficult to hold.
09.01.21, 13:23 - +44 7563 201744: Just like bastimentos.
09.01.21, 13:30 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay auch genau wie Bastimentos.
Super.
09.01.21, 13:34 - +44 7563 201744:
09.01.21, 13:34 - +44 7563 201744:
09.01.21, 13:35 - +44 7563 201744:
09.01.21, 13:35 - +44 7563 201744:
09.01.21, 14:37 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- You can only congratulate super animals, honestly, I'll definitely take some when I've got all the terraces.
Just what I've been looking for for years.
09.01.21, 15:51 - +44 7563 201744: OK
09.01.21, 17:37 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so please tell me how it works
If I have paid a pair with you then you send me the pair and that is the next day at my home or what? Even now in winter or what?
Another question do your animals need Uva or UVB?
09.01.21, 18:30 - +44 7563 201744: Yes if you complete payment I will send it to your home address.
09.01.21, 18:31 - +44 7563 201744: Yes animal needs UVB enclosure.
09.01.21, 18:32 - +44 7563 201744: It keeps them comfortable, warm and secured till the arrive at their destination.
09.01.21, 18:35 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, but i mean they also need uva and uvb every day in the Terra?
09.01.21, 21:16 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So I understood that when I paid, will I get the animals delivered to my apartment or do I have to pick them up somewhere?
09.01.21, 22:15 - +44 7563 201744: No
09.01.21, 22:16 - +44 7563 201744: It will be delivered to your apartment or house. You have to provide your exact house address.
09.01.21, 22:47 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay who do I have to give the address to you?
You can also get other Histironica species
And a question what kind of lighting do you have on your terrariums, including Uva and Uvb.
09.01.21, 23:04 - +44 7563 201744: Filtered bright light and LED bulbs.
09.01.21, 23:04 - +44 7563 201744: You will send me the address.
10.01.21, 11:53 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay my address is
-- das Opfer / the vcictim --
D 47506 Neukirchen Vluhn
Poststrasse 28
Germany
10.01.21, 11:54 - +44 7563 201744: OK I got it and I will put it down.
10.01.21, 11:58 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Super.
Say please have 2 questions
The other Histironica how does he look and a frog friend is looking for a normal escudo female no Koi do you have one if so how expensive?
10.01.21, 12:05 - +44 7563 201744: The female Escudo is €250
10.01.21, 12:05 - +44 7563 201744: The histironica looks like the dart frog
10.01.21, 12:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay just like which poison dart frog do I mean? I have a photo of one of them and the other?
10.01.21, 12:10 - +44 7563 201744: Yes and I have sent you there photos.
10.01.21, 12:16 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that was okay, however, only a Histironica and the yellow and black the other not around it.
10.01.21, 12:18 - +44 7563 201744: Which other not around it?
10.01.21, 13:12 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- tell me honestly about the animals that you sent me with a photo including white Bastimentos pair what would you call a rarity and rare?
10.01.21, 15:48 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand what you mean, I sent you all the animals you requested with photo and explained to you about it.
10.01.21, 15:48 - +44 7563 201744: What are you asking for?
10.01.21, 15:48 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand what you mean?
10.01.21, 15:54 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I just want to know what kind is very rare.
10.01.21, 16:00 - +44 7563 201744: The histrionica & Lehmanni.
10.01.21, 16:03 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I thought so and they are harder to hold s the other Ophagas?
10.01.21, 16:04 - +44 7563 201744: They are not that too hard to hold.
10.01.21, 16:07 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay what should you watch out for?
10.01.21, 16:13 - +44 7563 201744: Difficult and best kept in pair.
10.01.21, 16:17 - +44 7563 201744: Experienced caretakers are required for them.
10.01.21, 16:17 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- how do you mean a couple? Okay but how should the Terra be designed?
10.01.21, 16:20 - +44 7563 201744: 2-3 square ft per frog-Terrestrial
10.01.21, 16:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so I better stick with the other Ophagas like Bastimentos and Escudo and so?
10.01.21, 16:21 - +44 7563 201744: Yes if you are not very experienced in them best you stick to bastimentos, Escudo and others.
10.01.21, 16:22 - +44 7563 201744: But you can still try them with the help of the experience caretakers
10.01.21, 18:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so i have been dealing for 3 years. N with Dendrobarden Tinctorius and now with Ophaga Pummis but never with Lehmanni or Histis.
10.01.21, 18:23 - +44 7563 201744: You can give a try it is not bad and you may like it. It is to have experienced people to guide you in the process.
10.01.21, 18:25 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- in Ordnung

Zustimmung
Plazet
10.01.21, 18:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what do you mean by the help of a caretaker.
10.01.21, 19:25 - +44 7563 201744: Someone with experience to help you take proper care of them.
10.01.21, 20:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay but I will first deal with the other Ophaga species. So little by little white Bastis Escudo Koi Granni Quepo etc.
10.01.21, 21:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what are you going to do for a price for a pair of Graniluferus Quepo please?
You don't have the Red Golifo.
10.01.21, 22:10 - +44 7563 201744: 300 euros
10.01.21, 22:10 - +44 7563 201744: OK.
11.01.21, 11:56 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello so I decided to definitely take animals from you, but gradually. There is no other way because I am currently not receiving any more terrariums that I have ordered. It's also difficult here at the moment due to the shit Corona and I have to be able to accommodate the animals. You always get a deposit from me and after payment I call the animals the way I want them, is that possible? And always only couples.
First of all: Escudo Koi
Then Bastimentos White
Then Graniluferus Quepo
Then Ophaga Colubre
11.01.21, 13:24 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright I understand.
I can supply you terrariums.
11.01.21, 13:26 - +44 7563 201744: The pandemic is not affecting shipping.
11.01.21, 13:43 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay also fully furnished and please what are the dimensions for example 50 high 50 low 50 wide and please how expensive? With expiration or without?
11.01.21, 14:11 - +44 7563 201744: Yes fully furnished and I have 50L x 50W x 50D with expiration.
€300
16.01.21, 13:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello frog friend you may have an Ophaga Bastimentos 100% female for me have an orange buck and the female belonging to it has died.
Gladly in white.
16.01.21, 13:51 - +44 7563 201744: I have ophaga bastimentos female.
16.01.21, 13:51 - +44 7563 201744: What do you mean female has died?
16.01.21, 13:58 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes my Bastimentos female in GREEN 9 months old unfortunately now I need for the orange / yellow man of the 1.5 years a female likes white or nice red.
16.01.21, 14:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- did you have a female for me? What color did you like to have white for me?
16.01.21, 15:36 - +44 7563 201744: Sorry to hear this.
16.01.21, 15:37 - +44 7563 201744: I have female red, yellow and white.
16.01.21, 16:25 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what would you advise me for a colored female the man is orange?
16.01.21, 16:26 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is good.
16.01.21, 16:30 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what kind of female would you take for mine. Ann white red or which color
16.01.21, 16:31 - +44 7563 201744: Red or yellow.
16.01.21, 19:51 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- do you have a photo of your red and yellow basti please, please.
16.01.21, 20:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- could you send me a female next week ?? How do you do that?
16.01.21, 20:47 - +44 7563 201744: I have sent them to you before.
16.01.21, 20:48 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I can send you the female alongside the male bastimentos which you paid deposit, when I receive complete payment I will ship on Monday.
16.01.21, 21:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay so I would like a red female. How much does shipping cost if I get it in advance because I don't have a Terra for the white couple yet. Everything in shops is closed at the moment except food. And my glasses are taking their time. But I will continue to make a deposit because I want the white Basti couple and the Escudo Koi couple. But I need a Basti female beforehand.
16.01.21, 21:32 - +44 7563 201744: The bastimentos female red price and shipping is 200 euros.
18.01.21, 18:24 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim --
18.01.21, 18:24 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim --
18.01.21, 18:28 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- this is the lonely Basti Man 1.5 years old for that I need a beautiful 100% safe female for.
What do you mean red or yellow in your opinion?
18.01.21, 22:44 - +44 7563 201744: Red and yellow is the best and good.
20.01.21, 13:55 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello my friend so I have made up my mind and I definitely want to have a pure yellow Bastimentos female with the man who is sitting here alone. When do you always ship?
Then you have another question, you also have UVB lamps complete for delivery length approx 45cm
20.01.21, 16:54 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright I have given price and shipping for the female.
20.01.21, 16:55 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I have the UVB enclosure for delivery.
20.01.21, 16:55 - +44 7563 201744: I can ship it this week.
20.01.21, 18:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, but my question was do you have UV lighting for my terrarium for sale lamp UV about 45cm long
20.01.21, 18:36 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I have it.
20.01.21, 18:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- great so complete for a 50 wide cube for on gauze on top and how expensive complete?
Have a photo please.
20.01.21, 20:36 - +44 7563 201744: €400
20.01.21, 20:39 - +44 7563 201744:
20.01.21, 20:39 - +44 7563 201744:
20.01.21, 20:39 - +44 7563 201744:
20.01.21, 20:39 - +44 7563 201744:
20.01.21, 21:39 - +44 7563 201744: Do you like it?
20.01.21, 21:39 - +44 7563 201744: Do you want something else?
20.01.21, 21:56 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- great but I don't mean that and I can't ask. I mean Uvb lighting for terrariums on top of the gauze so lamp for frogs sunlight
20.01.21, 22:10 - +44 7563 201744:
20.01.21, 22:10 - +44 7563 201744:
20.01.21, 22:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- exactly the tube lamp but with a 220 volt Euro plug
And how expensive then and how long is it
20.01.21, 22:33 - +44 7563 201744: Yes 220 volt
20.01.21, 22:33 - +44 7563 201744: 45cm
20.01.21, 22:34 - +44 7563 201744: €100
21.01.21, 14:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hei wenn ich Dir Heute 100 Euro schicke und das auf Deinem Konto ist wann sendest Du mir das 100% sichere Basti Weibchen bitte in Gelb zu?
21.01.21, 15:41 - +44 7563 201744: The female including shipping is 200 euro plus the uvb light is 300 euro.
21.01.21, 15:41 - +44 7563 201744: You paid 100 euro for the bastimentos male as deposit.
21.01.21, 15:42 - +44 7563 201744: Don't you want the bastimentos male again?
21.01.21, 15:42 - +44 7563 201744: Please be clear in transactions to avoid confusion
21.01.21, 15:46 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no please don't get it wrong.
So with Uvb lamp is done first I found another one in my basement.
21.01.21, 15:49 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand
21.01.21, 15:49 - +44 7563 201744: Don't you want the uvb light?
21.01.21, 15:52 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Was zur Zeit wichtiger ist waere nun zunächst einmal ein 100% Sicheres Bastimentos Weibchen in Gelb für meinen Bock hier. Wie gesagt ein schoenes gelbes Weibchen bitte.
Dann später moechte ich wenn ich Ende des Monats so hoffe ich meine Terras endlich bekomme UEBER das weiße Basti Paar und Pärchen Escudo Koi sprechen die ich Dir Anzahlen werde.
21.01.21, 15:54 - +44 7563 201744: OK
21.01.21, 15:55 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no, I still had a UV lamp in the desert basement, I no longer told my wife that.
21.01.21, 15:55 - +44 7563 201744: You will pay 100 euro plus the 100 euro you deposited before for the female bastimentos right?
21.01.21, 15:57 - +44 7563 201744: You can pay the 100 euro to my account when I receive it I will prepare it for shipping.
21.01.21, 16:00 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, I'll do that but please an absolute yellow woman if possible. And don't forget your papers. Do you also ship on weekends?
21.01.21, 16:02 - +44 7563 201744: Yes yellow female and papers.
21.01.21, 16:03 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I will ship by weekend to enable it deliver faster.
21.01.21, 19:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I have just transferred 100.00 euros online.
So you can send me the yellow Basti female.
My address
-- das Opfer / the vcictim --
D 47506 Neukirchen Vluhn
Poststrasse 28
Germany
Tel 0157/30952284
21.01.21, 19:47 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright, I will let you know once I confirm and receive payment.
21.01.21, 19:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay it must be tomorrow.
Have a photo for me of the female what I get from you hope nice yellow.
22.01.21, 10:16 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is a nice yellow.
22.01.21, 10:16 - +44 7563 201744: I have not received the payment yet.
22.01.21, 10:16 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning hope you are well.
22.01.21, 10:47 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good morning all right so money was transferred to your account yesterday evening according to online. Must be on it today my dear.
22.01.21, 10:51 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- ask Sagmal If you send then how long will it take until the animal is here with me? If you send it in the morning it would be with me in the evening or what?
22.01.21, 10:58 - +44 7563 201744: If I receive money this morning, I will ship it this morning by Monday-wednesday you will receive it
22.01.21, 10:58 - +44 7563 201744: OK
22.01.21, 10:58 - +44 7563 201744: I am waiting.
22.01.21, 11:01 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I am concerned with whether the animal is presented on the same day or if it stands around for a night?
22.01.21, 11:07 - +44 7563 201744: It will be taken care of properly till it arrives to you.
22.01.21, 11:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I think so.
I want to know if you sent the Friday as an example, when would it be with me?
22.01.21, 11:13 - +44 7563 201744: Between Monday - Wednesday next week
22.01.21, 11:17 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that would take 2 to 3 days until the animal is with me if you send it on Monday?
It then sits in a box for 2 days and 2 nights until it comes to me or what?
22.01.21, 11:21 - +44 7563 201744: The animals are kept in a comfortable position and we'll taken care of till the arrive to the intended destination.
22.01.21, 11:22 - +44 7563 201744: If I send it on Monday you will receive it Tuesday evening or Wednesday Morning.
22.01.21, 11:25 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, it would be great if it's still alive and it works.
22.01.21, 11:48 - +44 7563 201744: Yes you don't have to worry.
22.01.21, 12:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay if you say that and everything works out that way we will stay in business.
Please let me know if you have anything new about animals Ophaga and Graniluferus.
22.01.21, 16:42 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so I have notification from my bank. The amount has been credited to you. Please check the mark.
22.01.21, 19:07 - +44 7563 201744: I have received it.
22.01.21, 19:08 - +44 7563 201744: I was attending to some urgent matter.
22.01.21, 19:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- this means?

that is
that is to say
22.01.21, 19:32 - +44 7563 201744: I will ship but it won't be today, I will ship it on Monday morning.
22.01.21, 21:08 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- you say exactly when and how and a beautiful yellow female.
22.01.21, 21:38 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand what you mean.
23.01.21, 10:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good morning my friend.
So how does it work from Wed shipping on Monday, when do you send and when do I get the animal and who will let me know exactly.
23.01.21, 11:08 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning
23.01.21, 11:09 - +44 7563 201744: I will ship it on Monday morning, money was received late and I can't ship animals in the evening and shipping company doesn't work weekends.
23.01.21, 11:10 - +44 7563 201744: You will receive it on Wednesday to your house address.
23.01.21, 11:10 - +44 7563 201744: No one will let you know, they will come to you.
23.01.21, 11:11 - +44 7563 201744: I will send you the shipping label and tracking information on Monday as soon as it ships.
23.01.21, 11:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- is okay, do you have a photo I get for one?
23.01.21, 11:19 - +44 7563 201744: What photo
23.01.21, 11:30 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- from Basti bitch what I get from you
23.01.21, 12:32 - +44 7563 201744: You paid for the yellow bastimentos female
23.01.21, 12:33 - +44 7563 201744: You paid only 200 euros
23.01.21, 12:33 - +44 7563 201744: First deposit was 100 euro for male white bastimentos
23.01.21, 12:34 - +44 7563 201744: You paid 100 euro yesterday for female bastimentos and want it to be shipped
23.01.21, 12:35 - +44 7563 201744: Therefore the 100 euro deposit and 100 euro yesterday was used for the female yellow bastimentos.
23.01.21, 13:56 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- but please take the 200 EURO for the Basti woman yellow and then get another 100 euros as a deposit or the full amount for the white Basti pair.
First of all, the yellow female is important to me
23.01.21, 13:58 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright I already done that.
23.01.21, 13:59 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- super okay then the white couple.
23.01.21, 14:05 - +44 7563 201744: What white couple?
23.01.21, 14:36 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- bastimentos couple what I want afterwards.
23.01.21, 14:51 - +44 7563 201744: OK
23.01.21, 17:01 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So I look forward to receiving the animal and then to other animals from you.
23.01.21, 18:59 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- if you send Monday when would that be with me?
23.01.21, 20:34 - +44 7563 201744: Wednesday - thursday
23.01.21, 20:38 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay so you send Monday and it arrives here wednesday / thursday right?
23.01.21, 20:38 - +44 7563 201744: Yes
23.01.21, 20:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- do you know roughly when in the morning or in the evening?
23.01.21, 20:41 - +44 7563 201744: No
23.01.21, 20:44 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay then I have to be at home on WEDNESDAY / THURSDAY.
23.01.21, 20:47 - +44 7563 201744: They will call you when they are about to deliver to your house, you don't have to worry.
23.01.21, 20:53 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay that would be great, i'm happy.
If you have confidence you can also calmly send me the white Bastimentos pair and then I will send you the transfer.
Only if you want otherwise I wait no problem was just a suggestion.
23.01.21, 21:13 - +44 7563 201744: I can do that for you, if you can pay 100 euro deposit I will send you the white bastimentos pair with the yellow female bastimentos on Monday.
23.01.21, 21:18 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, I don't make a problem, but you might have to pay 100 euros. Only on Tuesday on your account if that's not bad for you. I would be glad.
23.01.21, 21:25 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright I believe Tuesday you can pay 100 euros.
23.01.21, 21:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that's not a problem and would be great. Just one question, the Escudo Koi pair costs the same or as you wrote me .. You can also send them to me instead of the white bastis, the same price but also a rarity for me.
I leave you and you surprised me.
23.01.21, 21:43 - +44 7563 201744: You have proven to me you can be trustworthy and I am happy to do business with you but I don't know your financial status and how you can take this;
23.01.21, 21:46 - +44 7563 201744: If you can pay 300 euros, I will send you;
Yellow female bastimentos
Pair of white male bastimentos
Pair of Escudo koi
One terrarium.
23.01.21, 21:47 - +44 7563 201744: When the arrive we can sort out the balance.
23.01.21, 21:53 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- This is a great offer, but I thought of the following that you would now send me the yellow female and instead of the white Basti pair maybe the Escudo Koi pair you know I will transfer another 100 euros on Monday, Tuesday and the rest of the month is okay. Escudo Koi couple would be great.
23.01.21, 22:03 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I leave the UEBER but I suggest that if you do that, send me the Yellow Bastimentos and either the white pair of Bastis with or instead of the white Bastis the Escudo Koi pair.
23.01.21, 22:37 - +44 7563 201744: OK deal.
23.01.21, 22:37 - +44 7563 201744: Good night
23.01.21, 23:08 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Danke Gute Nacht bis Morgen.
23.01.21, 23:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good night and thank you stay healthy
24.01.21, 11:52 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello good morning are you okay? If you send tomorrow, ask who will bring the animals to me, a company or who. And do you know shipping because of Corona? Because it's worse with you than with us.
24.01.21, 12:59 - +44 7563 201744: Good afternoon
I am fine, hope you are well.
24.01.21, 13:00 - +44 7563 201744: The company will deliver to your doorstep
24.01.21, 13:00 - +44 7563 201744: I use the company for shipping most times, the always deliver.
24.01.21, 13:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, thank you, I'm fine too and Corona free, thank God.
I hope the FROESCHE too.
You say the papers come in German or what?
24.01.21, 13:56 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so my friend you send tomorrow right? I'm curious what I'll get from you. Send me a photo if you can so that the joy is even greater with me.
24.01.21, 14:38 - +44 7563 201744: Yes the papers will come with the animals.
24.01.21, 14:38 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I will send tomorrow.
24.01.21, 14:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay great question do I get the papers in German or how?
24.01.21, 14:41 - +44 7563 201744: Yes you will get the original papers in Germany it will be shipped alongside with the animals.
24.01.21, 14:42 - +44 7563 201744: The papers will be delivered with the animals to your address.
24.01.21, 14:44 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- oKAY Just one more question you may have. Photo for me of animals? I am so excited.
24.01.21, 14:45 - +44 7563 201744: I have sent you all the pictures of animals and right now I am not in the warehouse facility where animals are kept.
24.01.21, 14:47 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay just wanted to know what you're sending me tomorrow.
24.01.21, 14:48 - +44 7563 201744: None of my workers is on duty today.
24.01.21, 14:49 - +44 7563 201744: I told you just as we discussed.
24.01.21, 14:49 - +44 7563 201744: I will send yellow female bastimentos
Pair of white male bastimentos
24.01.21, 14:51 - +44 7563 201744: Escudo koi pair
24.01.21, 14:51 - +44 7563 201744: One terrarium
24.01.21, 14:52 - +44 7563 201744: You agreed you pay 300 euros on Monday and tuesday
24.01.21, 14:53 - +44 7563 201744: Then when animals and terrarium arrive we settle the balance of payment remaining.
24.01.21, 14:57 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- now you must have misunderstood me.
I definitely need the yellow Basti female but no white Bastimentos men for either a white Bastimentos couple or instead of the white Basti couple I would like to see an Escudo Koi couple so I thought.
Don't need Terra at the moment.
24.01.21, 15:06 - +44 7563 201744: What do you need alongside the female bastimentos?
24.01.21, 15:16 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so definitely the yellow Bastimentos female.
And I would also like to have another rare Ophaga couple, either a white Basti couple or an Escudo Koi.
What do you mean what is rarer?
24.01.21, 17:06 - +44 7563 201744: I will send female bastimentos and Escudo koi pair
24.01.21, 18:43 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- if my heart bleeds that would be absolute top and the joy huge.
Question do the Escudo Koi have to be sprayed a lot?
Because I still have a Terra here, completely furnished, cube 50x50x50 but without water drainage.
24.01.21, 19:06 - +44 7563 201744: No it doesn't have to be sprayed.
24.01.21, 19:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So then only feed the plants every now and then about every 2 days, right?
Additional about 1 hour of UV lighting a day?
24.01.21, 19:10 - +44 7563 201744: Yes
24.01.21, 19:11 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Okay.
Sind die schwer nach zu ziehen?
24.01.21, 19:11 - +44 7563 201744: They are not difficult to follow.
24.01.21, 19:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- but probably very rarely right?
Please let me know if you have any news again, okay.
24.01.21, 19:14 - +44 7563 201744: I will tomorrow morning it is shipped. Remember to send the payment.
24.01.21, 19:18 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Das werde ich sofort Dienstag veranlassen keine Sorge.
24.01.21, 19:19 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I'll do that on Tuesday don't worry.
I would like more jewels from you.
24.01.21, 19:32 - +44 7563 201744: OK
24.01.21, 19:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay so if you ship tomorrow the wednesday or thursday come right?
24.01.21, 19:34 - +44 7563 201744: Yes sure.
24.01.21, 23:01 - +44 7563 201744: Please send me your email address for the shipping label and shipping confirmation.
25.01.21, 01:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- OKAX
rolli27651 @ web. de
25.01.21, 11:28 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello good afternoon everything okay
Got my email?
25.01.21, 12:24 - +44 7563 201744: Good day Rolf, I received your email and I have also shipped it out. You will receive a notification from the shipping company including the shipping label.
25.01.21, 12:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, you can say you to me. Question when will they arrive at my place?
25.01.21, 12:34 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I already told you that. It will arrive at your doorstep.
25.01.21, 12:36 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes okay about when Tuesday or Wednesday?
Can you say that
25.01.21, 12:44 - +44 7563 201744: Please check your email the shipping company will send you email regarding your package.
25.01.21, 13:19 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- iC can't replace this email in German I don't know what's going on now. Please info what's coming.
25.01.21, 13:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I hope not that I have to pay the supplier something.
25.01.21, 13:22 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand what you mean
25.01.21, 13:23 - +44 7563 201744: I shipped your package this morning and your email is what the shipping company will use to send you email regarding your package that it is shipped
25.01.21, 13:23 - +44 7563 201744: This is UK in English not Germany in German
25.01.21, 13:24 - +44 7563 201744: You can copy it and translate it if you want.
25.01.21, 13:24 - +44 7563 201744: Your animals will arrive to you, it has been shipped.
25.01.21, 13:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay but what exactly is coming to me now
25.01.21, 13:29 - +44 7563 201744: Rolf I have told you several times
I shipped this morning the following animals.

Female yellow bastimentos
Pair of white male bastimentos
Pair of Escudo Koi
25.01.21, 13:29 - +44 7563 201744: Translate the email sent to you from the shipping company you will understand it.
25.01.21, 13:30 - +44 7563 201744: Übersetzen Sie die E-Mail, die Sie von der Reederei erhalten haben. Sie werden es verstehen.
25.01.21, 13:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- have you sent me Bastimento's men or a pair in white?
25.01.21, 14:00 - +44 7563 201744: I sent the female and pair of male too.
25.01.21, 14:02 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- nochmal bitte war schickst Du mir war für eine Frau und war für ein Paar?
25.01.21, 14:03 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- again please what kind of woman and what kind of couple are you sending me? I currently only have 2 terra free
25.01.21, 14:07 - +44 7563 201744: Yellow bastimentos female
25.01.21, 14:07 - +44 7563 201744: Pair of male bastimentos
25.01.21, 14:07 - +44 7563 201744: Pair of Escudo Koi
25.01.21, 17:01 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So okay, I assume that if the courier service brings me the animals I have nothing to pay to him because I come here from today city exit is prohibited and we are only allowed to go shopping individually within the city until the end of the week to the bank .
Everything else as discussed, we do as I said.
So I can't give the courier any money.
25.01.21, 17:38 - +44 7563 201744: Your animals has been shipped. I believe you should receive email from the courier and your shipping label.
25.01.21, 17:38 - +44 7563 201744: You will not pay the courier, I have paid the courier, they will deliver to your house address and leave.
25.01.21, 17:40 - +44 7563 201744: I have fulfilled my side of bargain, animals are shipped please remember to send the money for the other animals as we discussed tomorrow. €200.
25.01.21, 17:40 - +44 7563 201744: Nice doing business with you Mr. Rolf.
25.01.21, 18:11 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no problem, gladly again and again but since today curfew to the city you can't do anything buy nothing I don't get my finished terra no planting corona everything shit honestly.
Question did you only send me white Basti men or a couple?
Men are of no use to me without women.
25.01.21, 18:13 - +44 7563 201744: I will be expecting the money 200 euros tomorrow please don't forget.
25.01.21, 18:13 - +44 7563 201744: I sent female bastimentos
25.01.21, 18:13 - +44 7563 201744: Pair of male bastimentos
25.01.21, 18:14 - +44 7563 201744: Pair of Escudo Koi
25.01.21, 18:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Auf jeden Fall wenns was neues gibt egal ich wuerde gerne mit Dir weiterhin Geschäfte machen.
Nun mal eine Frage welche Maße haben denn Deine Fertigen Terra die Du eingerichtet liefern Koenntest Höhe Breite Tiefe?
25.01.21, 18:15 - +44 7563 201744: Ich werde das Geld morgen mit 200 Euro erwarten, bitte nicht vergessen.
Ich habe weibliche Bastimente geschickt
Paar männliche Bastimente
Paar Escudo Koi
25.01.21, 18:16 - +44 7563 201744: 50x50x50
25.01.21, 18:19 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no problem make transfer as usual. Are the terrariums fully furnished and with lighting and how expensive for me?
Do they have a drain for water?
25.01.21, 18:20 - +44 7563 201744: Yes they are fully furnished and with lighting.
25.01.21, 18:23 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it has water drainage
25.01.21, 18:23 - +44 7563 201744: €500
25.01.21, 18:23 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Please tell me a price among friends and please send me a photo of what they look like.
25.01.21, 18:40 - +44 7563 201744: How much will you offer.
25.01.21, 18:41 - +44 7563 201744:
25.01.21, 18:41 - +44 7563 201744:
25.01.21, 18:41 - +44 7563 201744:
25.01.21, 18:41 - +44 7563 201744:
25.01.21, 19:00 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- But since you have made a mistake with the photo, no fish aquarium but I mean a complete photo of the frog terrarium around and that doesn't cost 500 euros.
25.01.21, 19:11 - +44 7563 201744: Sorry, I will send it but how much will you pay?
25.01.21, 19:16 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- first send me a photo so I can get an idea and then I will know more.
25.01.21, 19:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- as a frog friend as cheap as possible if I take more, right?
25.01.21, 19:21 - +44 7563 201744: I will send you the photo after we discuss price.
25.01.21, 19:28 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay then please tell me the price for Dendrobarden Terra completely.
26.01.21, 09:36 - +44 7563 201744:
26.01.21, 09:36 - +44 7563 201744:
26.01.21, 13:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hey I like Tolle Terra Say you send them ready or how?
Make me an offer per Terra like in the photo.
26.01.21, 13:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim --
26.01.21, 13:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Wie gross ist das?
Gefaellt mir
26.01.21, 13:28 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I like it, make me a good offer, maybe I'll take it more depends?
26.01.21, 15:52 - +44 7563 201744: I told you 500 euros.
26.01.21, 15:54 - +44 7563 201744: 50x50
26.01.21, 15:56 - +44 7563 201744: Have you sent the 200 euros as we discussed?
26.01.21, 20:49 - +44 7563 201744: I have not heard from you, why didn't you send payment today as your said and as we discussed?
26.01.21, 21:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello just don't be afraid to come tomorrow.
We have curfew here in the village.
Hope the. I get animals here.
26.01.21, 21:38 - +44 7563 201744: You said you do it online transfer, please don't fail me tomorrow, I didn't disappoint you. Send the money tomorrow please.
27.01.21, 12:14 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning Rolf, hope you are well.
I have not still heard from you regarding the money, what is going on?
27.01.21, 15:44 - +44 7563 201744: Rolf if I don't get money today I have to take action against the shipment.
27.01.21, 15:45 - +44 7563 201744: This is not what we talked about, you promised and I believed you.
27.01.21, 15:45 - +44 7563 201744: You don't ever answer my messages.
27.01.21, 16:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so my dear very clearly you get your money no question and clearly trust versus trust also clearly. Sorry I haven't got around to it yet, do it very clearly.
We have to do so many tests here and as far as I have not come to we are broken here from the shit tests. Get the online transfer and then you have it I think by Friday.
However, so far I have no goods either, I hope that with the weather we have now and the cold nothing has happened. If the goods are there and in order, there are no problems.
And that I don't get in touch, I don't think that's nice of you.
I am not a cheat like many others.
27.01.21, 18:26 - +44 7563 201744: It's alright please try to do it.
27.01.21, 20:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- of course I will do that no question stand by my word and please take that into account. I'm just a little pressed for time at the moment. Please understand and would like to do more business with you at any time. Also your terras wonderful but 500 euros at the moment a lot of money for me. We could have spoken OVER 250.00 euros. In the current Corona situation, I'm very limited as a bus driver if I'm honest. I don't know how it will go in the near future. We have more business and work closures here than anything else. Here in our region things are going deeper and deeper at the moment. Curfew. Visit block. No schools. Shopping only in certain times and then only what you need and then another 6 deaths. You are only allowed out with special masks. I'm fed up with that, believe me.
27.01.21, 20:46 - +44 7563 201744: I understand you completely.
The final price for the Terra is 300 euros, I give it to you out of friendship.
27.01.21, 20:48 - +44 7563 201744: It is everywhere the pandemic makes things difficult but we manage to go about our businesses.
28.01.21, 14:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello my friend Frag has something happened up to now have not heard anything and no animal. What's the matter They break or not?
28.01.21, 14:55 - +44 7563 201744: Animals has been shipped and will arrive to your house address maybe a little delay due to the pandemic.
28.01.21, 14:55 - +44 7563 201744: What about my money?
28.01.21, 14:55 - +44 7563 201744: I have not received any payment from you yet?
28.01.21, 14:56 - +44 7563 201744: You are only worried about animals that will arrive to you soon, what about my money?
28.01.21, 14:57 - +44 7563 201744: This is not how business is done, this is a money you assured me that if I ship it on Monday, Tuesday I will have my money and today is Thursday.
28.01.21, 15:05 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I can no longer place orders with the bank like online.
The then book off and transfer at the moment is a holy mess here.
It's no different for me here I get to hear from whom the product is first if good then Gd.
But don't worry about that with me. You don't buy a pig in a poke you know that too.
28.01.21, 15:08 - +44 7563 201744: I have to call them to inform to put ON HOLD, not to deliver.
28.01.21, 15:09 - +44 7563 201744: I will call them right away.
28.01.21, 15:09 - +44 7563 201744: This wasn't our agreement, I sense a foul play here
28.01.21, 15:10 - +44 7563 201744: You told me to add other animals including the Terra and ship to you that on Tuesday you will pay me and right now you are saying different story.
28.01.21, 15:11 - +44 7563 201744: I have been sincere and honest with you and now you want to cheat me?
28.01.21, 15:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Don't you want to understand me or what I'm not cheating here.
Again, I forwarded an online order to the bank, that's a fact, whether it takes 1, 2 or 3 days due to the shit pandemic because I can't help it.
Furthermore, I asked for an offer for Terra and didn't order one. Read it right
Then I want
1 yellow Basti female
11 pairs of Basti Weiss
1/1 Escudo Koi that would like to have and nothing else for now.
This is not a fraud but very clear business ..
The goods are then notified that everything is fine and the rest of the money is okay
You also buy one, get the goods and pay for it, right?
So I find cheating of you outrageous.
28.01.21, 15:23 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- again I'm not cheating.
I can't allow myself and I don't know.
I don't want to either
28.01.21, 15:26 - +44 7563 201744: Have you sent payment or not?
Please be honest.
28.01.21, 15:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so I have given the bank and I do not need to lie to the account of my bank known to me and already used, an order for payment.
Tomorrow I'll ask again by phone about debits.
That doesn't work, unfortunately, we can't get out yet.
Do not worry, I am for honesty and correctness, I ask that from you just as you can from me.
28.01.21, 15:38 - +44 7563 201744: I have been honest and trustworthy to you from the beginning and I have shipped animals to you as I promised you and I kept to my words and animals should be with you maybe because of the pandemic and other regulations.
28.01.21, 15:38 - +44 7563 201744: I have been a truthful person.
28.01.21, 15:42 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- for me you are still an honest, trustworthy and fair person and so am I.
Again I have given the instruction to the bank and will check tomorrow.
28.01.21, 16:00 - +44 7563 201744: OK
Thank you
28.01.21, 17:54 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- u don't need to say thank you, i trust you and would like and would like to do further business with you.
I'm not mad at you but if that is so unreliable change the bank that I say stretch.
28.01.21, 19:19 - +44 7563 201744: I will also like to do further business with you.
28.01.21, 19:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- then it should be like that and I look forward to a correct and understanding further work with you.
And as I said when new interesting animals come to Histis or Ophaga please let me know, I'm sure we will be fine even if there are problems at the beginning.
Nobody wants anything to the other.
29.01.21, 12:15 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning Rolf,
I received 100 euros today instead of 200 euros.
29.01.21, 13:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I don't think that everyone here is Corona disturbed or what. Properly ordered 200 euros to be debited and then debited the 100.
Damn it clarify.
I'm sorry, it's done is impossible, nothing works.
Animals aren't there either.
They have my address but the mobile number they have is wrong instead of 0157 30952284 have 0157 30452284 and that is wrong.
Hopefully the animals are still alive.
29.01.21, 14:54 - +44 7563 201744: Please tell them to correct it and send the balance of 100 euros today.
29.01.21, 14:54 - +44 7563 201744: I will go to the office to inform them about the phone number so that the will correct it
29.01.21, 14:54 - +44 7563 201744: Maybe they are try to reach you but because the number is wrong.
29.01.21, 14:54 - +44 7563 201744: Please send the balance of 100 euros today please.
29.01.21, 15:42 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So I have again set the bank in knowledge and to ensure order that would be assured to me and I hope it works because today is Friday I would be assured
Is not my fault.
What is more important now is what about the animals, hopefully they survived that is my greatest concern.
And who gave a wrong number? This can not be. Since 25.1. From Walter company I have received delivery 28.1 delivery until today nothing.
29.01.21, 19:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I feel really ripped off no matter who.
Can't think that it takes so long.
29.01.21, 22:04 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- why no info?
29.01.21, 22:06 - +44 7563 201744: The animals will arrive to you safe and sound, I went to the company it says they tried to contact but it was a wrong number. I have given them the new number
29.01.21, 22:06 - +44 7563 201744: You have to be patient, you never completed my money and I have been patience with you
29.01.21, 22:07 - +44 7563 201744: Animals are in good shape, I paid insurance for the animals.
29.01.21, 22:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Okay then, I'm worried about the animals. When do they come on Saturdays
29.01.21, 22:27 - +44 7563 201744: They will have to call you. They also reported about the ongoing curfew in Germany so expect them.
29.01.21, 22:27 - +44 7563 201744: Please make sure I receive my money before the animals deliver
29.01.21, 22:28 - +44 7563 201744: This wasn't the agreement, animals are about to deliver and you have not completed my money.
29.01.21, 22:36 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I don't make anything clear now, I have instructed the bank to take care of it, that's damn legally binding for me now.
Am a bus operator and not an idiot.
30.01.21, 11:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I feel somehow really ripped off and will have that cleared up legally. I have fulfilled my debit to the bank regarding transfer to you and nothing works. Furthermore, I received emails that the animals will be delivered on January 28th, 2021. Today we have no information on January 30th, 2021 no animals zero.
That’s not how I’m treated by any means. If you want to have that, I will keep further steps open. Even if it is Corona, I also have a job to represent and no 2 to 3 days time to wait for something that is confirmed but not delivered. There is also a name for it that applies to the bank as well as to all other entrepreneurs.
30.01.21, 12:52 - +44 7563 201744: Why the said animals was not delivered at the intended time specified was because of the wrong number, the port regulations of shipping due to the pandemic and the state of things at the moment in Germany.
30.01.21, 12:54 - +44 7563 201744: You didn't receive animals on 28th doesn't mean you won't again, also the shipping may have specified 3 days, doesn't mean there might not be any delays sometimes orders delays but will finally be delivered.
30.01.21, 12:54 - +44 7563 201744: I don't cheat or rip people, I am a sincere man.
30.01.21, 12:55 - +44 7563 201744: I have not yet received the balance of 100 euro but I have be patient.
30.01.21, 13:00 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I didn't say that either, and neither did I ask you. On the contrary, you have my complete confidence and you can expect that from me.
But various companies are doing some things through Corona to their benefit, which I also notice here in our industry.
That can't be something like that.
Now when can I expect the animals my friend?
I'm also not always available.
30.01.21, 13:02 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- it can't all be true, the bank has assured me that it will be done. I'm fucking pissed off.
30.01.21, 17:47 - +44 7563 201744: Couriers doesn't work on weekends it will be delivered on Monday - Tuesday
30.01.21, 19:53 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So would the animals arrive at my place on Monday or Tuesday?
31.01.21, 13:54 - +44 7563 201744: Yes
31.01.21, 18:54 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hey, I hope that it works with the animals in the coming week because we will have even larger Corona editions from next week. Minimal mail etc. should be delivered etc. And other companies and etc. will not have any further open.
We too have to stay at home for another few weeks from tomorrow. I also informed the bank again and asked for a reply or transfer.
31.01.21, 19:56 - +44 7563 201744: They will deliver by Monday Tuesday
31.01.21, 19:57 - +44 7563 201744: OK I will let you know when I receive it on Monday.
31.01.21, 20:03 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I ask for it and hope for the bank that they have transferred that on Friday otherwise I will be very angry. With my money I can work myself because I don't need the bank for it.
I have one more question
Do you also have the Ophaga Graniluferus and Golifo the red ones?
And do you have something new just a question?
31.01.21, 20:07 - +44 7563 201744: The bank sent only 100 euros on Friday.
31.01.21, 20:07 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I have ophaga graniluferus and golifo red.
31.01.21, 20:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes that's why and I would like to have that clarified by the bank tomorrow because the order was online 200.-, damn it.
I'll let him know tomorrow what it's supposed to do, you can rely on it.
31.01.21, 20:16 - +44 7563 201744: OK
31.01.21, 20:17 - +44 7563 201744: I will send to you the receipt of the 100 euro I received.
31.01.21, 20:20 - +44 7563 201744:
31.01.21, 20:34 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- No problem, I believe you and don't trust you, only the bank has to tell me why I want to know when I give an instruction.
31.01.21, 20:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Do you have something new about Ophagas or rarities?
Ask what do you have to have for a Granni Golf couple?
And what is rarer the green or the red Granni?
01.02.21, 00:10 - +44 7563 201744: OK
01.02.21, 00:10 - +44 7563 201744: No I don't have new ophagas right now.
01.02.21, 00:10 - +44 7563 201744: Granni couples red
01.02.21, 00:10 - +44 7563 201744: Good night.
01.02.21, 14:06 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello so I am absolutely pissed off and feel very ripped off.
I talked to the bank because they have an emergency staff, errors can occur and 2. The banks decide when and how you book transfers according to their statements. You check it and then I get back to you.
It's more than outrageous.
Furthermore, I have not heard anything from the forwarder about animals, which also makes me very puzzled. Only delivery 28.1 now we have 1.2. And nothing. I am fair. You are fair.
Everyone else thinks that they can hold me down and I won't play with them.
01.02.21, 14:33 - +44 7563 201744: I have not still received any payment yet and I have checked severally nothing came.
01.02.21, 14:33 - +44 7563 201744: The delivery will be today or tomorrow
01.02.21, 14:34 - +44 7563 201744: Today is not yet over neither tomorrow. It will arrive I am sure.
01.02.21, 14:34 - +44 7563 201744: The bank should delay transfer when you have asked for money to be sent to me
01.02.21, 14:40 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no, I have to instruct the bank to transfer the remaining 100 euros to you.
Then they say to me the bank is in front of it, but the jumps not immediately in the current situation if someone whistles here.
According to the bank, it's always nice and slow, the lady tells me.
I think that's very naughty
01.02.21, 17:58 - +44 7563 201744: Then instruct the bank because I have not received the remaining 100 euro
01.02.21, 17:58 - +44 7563 201744: So when will I receive the 100 euro
01.02.21, 18:55 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so slowly I'm getting really mad and it is enough now if you hold me up and want to mess around you have to get up earlier that goes for everyone. I gave the bank another immediate instruction and they told me it would be done but they wouldn't jump if you whistle. I'm getting fed up with it. And if that doesn't work now with stretching I call in my lawyer then it works that I don't let anyone patronize me what and how and when I don't have anything to do with any authority or anybody. The bank knows and I hope for the bank that the as have understood. Now I'm slowly waiting for my goods and not just talk. I'm really mad. It's not your fault but slowly I already have my goods. What kind of company is it that first writes 28.1. Then no more message and 1.2. nothing yet.
What's going on as sloppy as the bank or what?
01.02.21, 20:50 - +44 7563 201744: Tomorrow you will receive the goods.
01.02.21, 20:50 - +44 7563 201744: I am sure of it.
01.02.21, 20:51 - +44 7563 201744: When I receive the money I will let you know.
01.02.21, 21:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that would be very nice if you would let me know, because if things go on with the bank then I'll change the bank.
I'm looking forward to the animals I'm curious whether they are still all right. I hope and am happy.
01.02.21, 21:35 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Wir werden wenn alles optimal gelaufen ist sehr gerne weitere Geschäfte weiter zu machen.
Kannst Du mir mal bitte Fotos von den Graniluferus senden die Du hast.
Danke
01.02.21, 21:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I will be happy to do business with you if there is something new and rare. Please send me photos of the Granis you have.
And how expensive a pair of them
02.02.21, 10:18 - +44 7563 201744: The animals are in good condition believe me.
02.02.21, 10:18 - +44 7563 201744: I paid insurance for the animals.
02.02.21, 10:18 - +44 7563 201744: I have not still received the money.
02.02.21, 10:19 - +44 7563 201744: I want us to conclude our first business successfully before another one please.
02.02.21, 12:08 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello i am curious.
Question do I get the animals today or not?
Not only can I wait for the courier, I have other obligations too.
Would be nice to know.
02.02.21, 14:16 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- On my part, the transaction has been properly completed. I have instructed the bank to do everything that has to be done.
But until today no animal received, only information.
Ask me what this is
Not correct for me, quite honestly, although I still trust you but slowly I'm getting puzzled.
02.02.21, 15:35 - +44 7563 201744: Rolf honestly I have the received the remaining 100 euros.
02.02.21, 15:35 - +44 7563 201744: Transaction was not completed because I have not received the remaining 100 euro
02.02.21, 15:37 - +44 7563 201744: Me too I am also worried about the whole thing, you promised to send my 200 euros on Tuesday and today is a week I still have not received the remaining 100 euro what shows that if animal arrives to you, you will pay me.
02.02.21, 15:47 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I don't understand that something is wrong here. Some time ago I gave you the transfer of 200 euros to the bank. You only got 100 Remainder of 100 Missing something is wrong.
The bank's tepid statement on Friday some mistake happened that is not my problem as I have to wait. Of course you will get the 100 euros, but I will now turn on my lawyer against the bank.
I'm full
Still, although you have already received money, I haven't seen an animal yet and honestly, I'm not to be had for such nonsense.
Don't think I'm an idiot.
Either or not like that.
02.02.21, 15:55 - +44 7563 201744: What is going
02.02.21, 15:55 - +44 7563 201744: What do you mean?
02.02.21, 15:55 - +44 7563 201744: Did I say you are an idiot?
02.02.21, 15:56 - +44 7563 201744: You were suppose to pay me 200 euro and I received 100 euro
02.02.21, 15:56 - +44 7563 201744: And till now nothing has arrived in my account
02.02.21, 15:56 - +44 7563 201744: Are you blaming me?
02.02.21, 15:57 - +44 7563 201744: Did your bank confirm that they sent 200 euros to my bank account?
02.02.21, 15:59 - +44 7563 201744: If your bank made mistake and send 100 euro instead of 200 euro they should be responsible for it and you should worry and blame them not me.
02.02.21, 16:00 - +44 7563 201744: We had and agreement and I told you what happened and you blame me?
02.02.21, 16:04 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- misunderstood again
Not your fault but the bank. I just want to know where the other 100 euros are stretching that is my right.
To which you are entitled.
And from you where the animals stay.
02.02.21, 16:08 - +44 7563 201744: I will go now to the courier office and verify and I will let you know this evening.
02.02.21, 16:09 - +44 7563 201744: Why will your bank make such mistake and send 100 euro instead of 200 euro
02.02.21, 16:09 - +44 7563 201744: Your bank should correct that immediately.
02.02.21, 16:13 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- because I once did an online business account and a one-time transfer privately and they made a call that they now clarify and say.
Be so good and finally tell me when the animals will come.
02.02.21, 16:16 - +44 7563 201744: Have the bank sent the remaining 100 euros or not?
02.02.21, 16:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- As the bank informed me, 100 euros have been transferred to the well-known Kt today.
02.02.21, 16:26 - +44 7563 201744: Who is well-known Kt?
02.02.21, 16:29 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I don't understand what do you mean by K7
02.02.21, 16:30 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- may be that I came across another letter while writing.
02.02.21, 16:54 - +44 7563 201744: I will confirm with my bank and know if it has arrived.
02.02.21, 17:42 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so I have just paid 100 euros from the other custodian to your account and that’s now done with the Sparkasse, what went wrong takes a few days.
You now have the 100 euros on your box.
Now what about now with the animals, when do they come, they can't be that they are on the road for almost 10 days and I am only held here.
I want to have an exact date now. There is no bazaar here.
02.02.21, 17:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- we should be open and honest with each other and not be such a hack. I don't want to be lied to by anyone.
02.02.21, 17:47 - +44 7563 201744: I just checked my account and nothing is there, it has not arrived.
Can I see the screenshot or receipt of the 100 euro you sent.
02.02.21, 17:47 - +44 7563 201744: I don't lie
02.02.21, 17:47 - +44 7563 201744: I am not yet back.
02.02.21, 17:57 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- 25 minutes ago I again transferred 100 euros from the other canton to you.
I'm getting pissed off
Furthermore, I did not say that you lie but also me and that for information shit and do not prove any but that was the last transfer that the Sparkasse received from me. I am going to let my lawyer check the amount of 200 euros that went out last week and definitely change banks immediately. I work with my money and not a bank.
Please check again with you, the remainder transferred 100 euros 25 minutes ago.
When will the goods arrive? I'm not here in the waiting room.
02.02.21, 18:02 - +44 7563 201744: If you transferred it 25 minutes ago then it's late, I think it will reflect tomorrow.
02.02.21, 18:02 - +44 7563 201744: I think it will arrive tomorrow.
02.02.21, 18:02 - +44 7563 201744: Can I see the screenshot of payment sent?
02.02.21, 18:08 - +44 7563 201744: Wenn Sie vor 25 Minuten 100 Euro von Ihrem Konto überwiesen haben, wird es morgen auf meinem Konto eingehen. Können Sie mir bitte eine Quittung oder einen Screenshot der Überweisung von 100 Euro senden, die Sie vor 25 Minuten gesendet haben?
02.02.21, 18:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- until 6.30 pm you can book with us. Is it certain that the animals will be delivered tomorrow and when, please? I would have liked to have known something else to do.
02.02.21, 18:10 - +44 7563 201744: Tomorrow by 4:30 pm German time.
02.02.21, 18:11 - +44 7563 201744: Die 200 Euro, die Sie der Bank gegeben und die fälschlicherweise 100 Euro auf mein Konto überwiesen haben, gehen Sie zur Bank und holen Sie sie zurück.
02.02.21, 18:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I'll definitely do that with the bank tomorrow, the first thing you can rely on and I change the bank don't let me be fooled.
02.02.21, 18:18 - +44 7563 201744: Bastimentos female yellow
Pair of bastimentos male white
Pair Escudo Koi
02.02.21, 18:19 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Say, what would you have to offer Pummi or Histis rarities pairs a and how expensive?
Or better what would be a rarity?
02.02.21, 18:21 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hopefully my friend Bastimentos Weiß is a couple and not just men? I need a pair
02.02.21, 18:28 - +44 7563 201744: 400 euros for the pairs.
02.02.21, 18:28 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is.
02.02.21, 18:35 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- 400 euros for 2 pairs of Histis or Granis?
What is a rarity and rarer in your opinion?
02.02.21, 18:39 - +44 7563 201744: Histis
02.02.21, 18:39 - +44 7563 201744: Excellent
02.02.21, 19:15 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay allerdings hatte ich noch keine Histis.
Sind die Bewohner zu halten und zu züchten als Pummis und wie werden Sie gehalten. Auf was muß g wird werden?
02.02.21, 19:37 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, however, I haven't had a histis yet.
Are they more difficult to keep and to breed than pummies and how are they kept? What do you have to pay attention to?
02.02.21, 19:42 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I would very much like to do more business with you, correctly and without problems.
I have full confidence in you and you should think and know that about me.
02.02.21, 21:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I hope everything will work out tomorrow. I'm curious.
And I get beautiful animals
03.02.21, 00:23 - +44 7563 201744: They are not difficult to bred
03.02.21, 00:23 - +44 7563 201744: Thank you
I also have confidence in you.
03.02.21, 00:23 - +44 7563 201744: Totally
03.02.21, 12:07 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning Rolf,
Check if the account details you sent money is the same

Name: Arendina Jentina Veenstra

IBAN: DE09110101002899425731

BIC: SOBKDEBBXXX
03.02.21, 12:07 - +44 7563 201744: I have checked my account this morning and nothing is there.
03.02.21, 12:08 - +44 7563 201744: PLEASE GO TO YOUR BANK THIS MORNING AND VERIFY WHAT IS HAPPENING.
03.02.21, 12:09 - +44 7563 201744: Guten Morgen Rolf,
Überprüfen Sie, ob die Kontodaten, an die Sie Geld gesendet haben, identisch sind

Name: Arendina Jentina Veenstra

IBAN: DE09110101002899425731

BIC: SOBKDEBBXXX
Ich habe heute Morgen mein Konto überprüft und nichts ist da.
BITTE GEHEN SIE AN DIESEM MORGEN ZU IHRER BANK UND ÜBERPRÜFEN SIE, WAS PASSIERT.
03.02.21, 12:10 - +44 7563 201744: Ich habe es satt, mein Bankkonto ist gut und nichts ist falsch daran. Ich verstehe nicht, dass Sie zweimal 100 Euro senden und nichts kam.
03.02.21, 12:18 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- please check the money has to be there, I promise that
Would be booked yesterday and the acct data is correct, the other thing you got damn it.
03.02.21, 12:32 - +44 7563 201744: Ich habe streng geprüft und nichts ist da. Sie haben mir dreimal 100 Euro geschickt. Habe ich Sie jemals angelogen, dass ich es nicht erhalten habe? Ich habe dir gesagt, dass ich nie Geld von dir erhalten habe. Gehen Sie zu Ihrer Bank und überprüfen Sie.
03.02.21, 12:33 - +44 7563 201744: Senden Sie mir die Transaktionsbestätigung, die Sie erhalten haben, als Sie gestern die Zahlung online gesendet haben.
03.02.21, 12:56 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so can not send but could confirm by swearing yesterday from the Commerzbank account to your Kt.
De 09110101002899425731
Posted on 2.2.2021 and at the same time value date just like the other amounts that is a fact.
03.02.21, 16:52 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so i have mine SHOULD be fully fulfilled and have transferred I only know that I am here on my account. The 100 euros yesterday went out to your account just like the others So it should be on your account by tomorrow at the latest. And once again nothing is here as promised at 4.30pm.
03.02.21, 17:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- so i have mine SHOULD be fully fulfilled and have transferred I only know that I am here on my account. The 100 euros yesterday went out to your account just like the others So it should be on your account by tomorrow at the latest. And once again nothing is here as promised at 4.30pm.
03.02.21, 17:44 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So it's 5:45 pm I don't have any animals here as you say at 4:30 pm so far zero money has also been transferred to your account.
What should I think of that?
Where are the goods, please?
03.02.21, 18:04 - +44 7563 201744: I just received the 100 euro
03.02.21, 18:05 - +44 7563 201744: Please I will contact the courier because I received a call from them.
03.02.21, 18:05 - +44 7563 201744: Have you contacted them if maybe there is a reason for their delay.
03.02.21, 18:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay i said yes i'm honest and have no reason to lie or cheat i don't care.
Have not received any information from a courier so far.
Where is he coming from and when?
03.02.21, 18:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- But that can't be true. I will now get a notification from the courier service that I may only get the animals on February 1st or 20th if everything goes well.
You are not serious, are you?
I have carried out modifications here, waiting for the animals to receive notification even though they knew that it was not being delivered.
Absolute sloppiness to be honest. Just like the Sparkasse here.
What's happening now?
03.02.21, 18:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- The reason is supposed to be a wrong number that the courier had from you. But that's not my problem, I shared the right one with you. Now here I am.
03.02.21, 20:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- how are you going now?
03.02.21, 22:00 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Of course I insist on my ordered animals
03.02.21, 22:30 - +44 7563 201744: I received a call from the shipping company regarding the animals and they also told me the have updated you on the recent developments.
03.02.21, 22:31 - +44 7563 201744: I know the fault was mine giving the wrong number but it is a mistake that normally occur.
03.02.21, 22:32 - +44 7563 201744: They courier now have the correct number and address the will repeat the delivery.
03.02.21, 22:32 - +44 7563 201744: You can count on it.
03.02.21, 22:40 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes of course that can happen no question. That's human
Only when would I get it then? After the long patience and the circus, as a frog friend, I had to get a beautiful red Basti female for free as compensation.
03.02.21, 22:41 - +44 7563 201744: I will do my best for you. I will surely compensate you.
03.02.21, 22:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I would be very happy and welcome as a business friend.
When can I count on the animals now?
04.02.21, 11:30 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hello my friend.
When can I count on my animals now if I may ask? That would be very important to Wed.
04.02.21, 12:08 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- would be nice of you if you would let me know when I can finally count on the animals. If you can, please as soon as possible.
Here is the address again
-- das Opfer / the vcictim --
47506 Neukirchen Vluyn
Poststrasse 28
Germany
Mobile 0157/30952284
Email: rolli27651@web.de
04.02.21, 12:30 - +44 7563 201744: I will have to verify with the courier before I will you any information.
04.02.21, 12:31 - +44 7563 201744: Hope your details are correct?
04.02.21, 12:37 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- these are my correct details.
Here again exactly
-- das Opfer / the vcictim --
47506 Neukirchen Vluyn
Poststrasse 28
Germany
Mobile 0157/30952284
Email rolli 27651 @ web de
There are other couriers like IKS Walter, for example
04.02.21, 12:40 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- for example Internationaler Kurier Service Thomas Walter enter on Facebook.
You can find it there.
Also correct direct, reliable and inexpensive.
04.02.21, 12:42 - +44 7563 201744: Who is Thomas Walter and IKS Walter?
04.02.21, 12:42 - +44 7563 201744: What is internationaler Kurier service?
04.02.21, 12:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- this is a Europe-wide animal transport company
04.02.21, 12:53 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3710210355731741&id=1089069414512528&sfnsn=scwspwa
04.02.21, 13:06 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- This animal haulage company picks up and delivers animals of all kinds across borders and also delivers everything that is required for terraristics. Perfectly safe and problem-free as I know within 48 hours.
04.02.21, 13:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3710006745752102&id=1089069414512528&sfnsn=scwspwa
04.02.21, 14:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- could you tell me when I can get the animals. So soon I would be very dear. It can't be if a courier of yours in Germany is my address and email has contacted me and writes Animals will be delivered on January 28th and this will be communicated to me in writing by email and then notified on February 3rd because the phone number is incorrect, the animals could not deliver. My friend, if this is a correct serious company then Queen Elisabeth is a man for me. That’s a joke. I honestly have no trust in you in this person.
A serious forwarding and courier company as a service provider can always deliver in the current time. Everything else is clear from false protection claims by the shipping company.
04.02.21, 16:12 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- my friend please don't forget me for me the animals are important please take care that i will get them soon okay.
Greetings Rolf
04.02.21, 16:34 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- my friend please don't forget me for me the animals are important please take care that i will get them soon okay.
Greetings Rolf
04.02.21, 16:35 - +44 7563 201744: I will never forget you and animals will get to you in good health.
04.02.21, 16:36 - +44 7563 201744: The shipping company is good and trustworthy I have used it many times.
04.02.21, 16:37 - +44 7563 201744: This this shipping company might not be in UK.
04.02.21, 16:38 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I just hope that when, please
Would like to be able to do more business with you.
04.02.21, 16:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that's right
04.02.21, 18:00 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- do you already know what and when I will get the animals?
04.02.21, 19:19 - +44 7563 201744: The shipping company will notify you as well as me.
04.02.21, 19:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- that would be very nice just who knows when.
They should take care of it as soon as possible, they are service providers and have to do their service or your order again as quickly as possible.
These are living beings, i.e. animals, and not green goods.
05.02.21, 10:21 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good morning my friend.
Do you already know something new when I will finally get my animals?
05.02.21, 11:17 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I would love it if I can get the animals as soon as possible.
Because I want to finish with the local renovation in the house.
05.02.21, 12:29 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3712968715455905&id=1089069414512528&sfnsn=scwspwa
05.02.21, 12:44 - +44 7563 201744: Good morning friend.
05.02.21, 12:45 - +44 7563 201744: The shipping company said the will attempt delivery again 15th - 20th February
05.02.21, 12:45 - +44 7563 201744: They should have informed you through your email because the said they also notified you.
05.02.21, 13:21 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I got an information from the shipping company yesterday evening.
Only my friend I have to be able to rely 100% that it will work this time and please say the exact day and time. You have the exact address and mobile number and so is the email address. I'm curious how you want to make the stress good for me here. Unfortunately, yesterday my Colubre pair broke shit. I'm looking forward to the color variant Escudo Koi. I hope I get picture book animals from you, whether Escudo Koi or white basti couple.
Greetings Rolf
05.02.21, 13:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- You can also notify me via two emails either the
rolli27651@web.de
Or
rollirolli394@gmail.com
I check both several times a day.
05.02.21, 15:15 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I just hope that this time it really works properly without any problems.
05.02.21, 20:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello my friend have a question do you also have the Escudo Koi in blue or blue Escudo at all?
05.02.21, 22:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I hope everything will be fine..
06.02.21, 07:55 - +44 7563 201744: OK.
06.02.21, 07:56 - +44 7563 201744: You will receive them and all will be good. I will make it good for you by giving you discount and animal.
06.02.21, 07:57 - +44 7563 201744: It will work out perfectly because the courier have your correct details.
06.02.21, 07:57 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I do.
06.02.21, 07:57 - +44 7563 201744: Don't worry everything will be fine.
06.02.21, 10:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good morning my friend.
I look forward to seeing the animals if it works and I hope it will be something this time.
Again the question do you actually also have blue escudo?
06.02.21, 10:37 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Ausser den Escudo Koi interessieren mich auch sehr Blaue Escudo.
Haste Du welche??
06.02.21, 10:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- In addition to the Escudo Koi, which I am looking forward to, I am also interested in Blue Escudo.
Do you have any?
06.02.21, 13:49 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- will you please let me know if you also have blue escudo?
Greetings Rolf
06.02.21, 18:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello my friend please let me know if you also have blue escudo pairs.
Can you send me a photo ??
07.02.21, 14:38 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Du hast diese Nachricht gelöscht.
07.02.21, 14:59 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- hello my friend why do I get no answer from you too snowed or what's going on?
Greetings Rolf
07.02.21, 15:26 - +44 7563 201744: My friend I told you when the courier will ship animals again to you and courier also sent you email what other answer are you talking about?
07.02.21, 15:27 - +44 7563 201744: I asked you since you don't want to buy new animals now till the one you paid for arrive to you
07.02.21, 15:27 - +44 7563 201744: I said we wait then before any other business.
07.02.21, 15:34 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- yes that's clear only the other animals, I just want to know whether you also have beautiful blue escudos as a couple except for the beautiful escudo koi.
07.02.21, 15:35 - +44 7563 201744: Yes I have them, I got new ophaga and other animals
07.02.21, 15:40 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- you see so we can get along great my friend.
Please tell me what kind of new ophaga you have, please.
You know that I'm a freak
Tell me what
Greetings Rolf
07.02.21, 15:41 - +44 7563 201744: I will send you list of the new ophaga and other animals that came.
07.02.21, 15:45 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- my friend that would be more than great and I'm looking forward to it.
07.02.21, 18:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I'm looking forward to your new list and I'm very excited.
Greetings Rolf
08.02.21, 11:04 - +44 7563 201744: 1.1 oophaga bastimentos (Cemetery)
Oophaga Colon 0.0.x Ranitomeya
Oophaga Pumilio Nancy 2.1
08.02.21, 11:06 - +44 7563 201744: Chameleon
Wallaby
08.02.21, 11:06 - +44 7563 201744: Wattled cranes
08.02.21, 11:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- tomorrow my friend has a shit problem for the yellow female which was intended for a Basti man or the orange man of mine died tonight.
Found him dead in Terra and now don't know what to do.

I can't clear out the Terra I have to find something to disinfect. Of course I want new animals, definitely a white basti pair.
Sede a photo of 11 Basti clementery
08.02.21, 11:21 - +44 7563 201744: I am sorry to hear that your animal died. What happened did you not take care of it properly?
08.02.21, 11:24 - +44 7563 201744:
08.02.21, 11:27 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- but of course I ate well yesterday but only sat in the water part this morning dead I'm so disappointed. I don't know what it was. I have 2x Skyligth lamps on it. Temperature of 25 to 26 degrees I don't know. But what do I do now, what can I use to disinfect the Terra? Since everything is built in, I can't clear it, just remove the substrate up to the glass oden and then add new pin bark and leaves.
08.02.21, 11:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I like this beautiful animal very much. What should a couple cost? Because the yellow female from you is of no use to me now that the guy has passed away.
What else do you have about Ophaga on the list, my friend?
08.02.21, 11:42 - +44 7563 201744: Did you know if the temperature and warm is good. Also the foods he eats are the healthy foods.
08.02.21, 11:42 - +44 7563 201744: The couple is 400 euros
08.02.21, 11:43 - +44 7563 201744: I have give you the new oophaga that came in and the old list too.
08.02.21, 11:48 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay so until now I don't have a new list here
The temperature is 26 degrees for the feed, yes spring tails and droso which I always feed
I dust minerals 1 to 2 times with Birkhan powder.
08.02.21, 11:49 - +44 7563 201744: Here is the new list
08.02.21, 11:52 - +44 7563 201744: The old list for the bastimentos, escudo koi, lehimani and others are still available
08.02.21, 11:53 - +44 7563 201744: What do you want now in particular?
08.02.21, 12:02 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Well it stays that way with the animals that I get from you in the week from February 15th to 20th as usual except now for the yellow female because I no longer have a partner or a replacement make a suggestion.
Greetings Rolf
08.02.21, 12:04 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- also interesting for me blue escudos as a substitute or so I'll leave that to you stress I've had enough so far.
08.02.21, 12:18 - +44 7563 201744: You can send that to you as well.
08.02.21, 12:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- war bitte hast du für Ranitomeya Art da?
Auch Ranitomeya Variabeless?
08.02.21, 12:33 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- It is very clear that I need what I get from you for the yellow Basti female then a replacement or partner.
Either a white Basti female instead of the yellow one or the yellow one like ehabt but a suitable partner.
I leave it to you.
08.02.21, 12:53 - +44 7563 201744: You want me to change the yellow female to white female?
08.02.21, 12:58 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- or I don't care to send a white man to the yellow woman so that I have a couple.
08.02.21, 23:45 - +44 7563 201744: But you have to pay for it.
09.02.21, 11:42 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- good morning my friend.
So I don't know if you and the shipping company can deliver to me from the 15th onwards, we have about 40cm of snow here and the roads are closed. I hope it works.
So I'll get a pair of Escudo Koi from you
A pair of white bastimentos
And a yellow Basti female.
09.02.21, 13:15 - +44 7563 201744: Here there is snow too
09.02.21, 13:15 - +44 7563 201744:
09.02.21, 13:15 - +44 7563 201744:
09.02.21, 13:16 - +44 7563 201744: Yes this is what you will get.
Do you want more?
09.02.21, 14:01 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I will definitely take animals from you no question. But first let the others come. Then we'll see. Another favorite is of course a super blue Escudo pair.
09.02.21, 16:32 - +44 7563 201744: OK
09.02.21, 19:03 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- my friend would it be possible that I could possibly get a pair of Escudo Koi in addition, the 200 euros will then be transferred?
09.02.21, 20:28 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it is possible
09.02.21, 20:29 - +44 7563 201744: So that I can submit it as well with the others.
09.02.21, 20:54 - +44 7563 201744: Tomorrow is 10th I have to submit them so that they will be shipped as well.
09.02.21, 21:34 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay just leave it as it is now. I'd like to have them here first, then we'll see. But for information you should please hold back a red Lehmanni couple for later until I have my other Terras but definitely a red Lehmanni couple for me and a good price for me my friend. Could take it now, but I'm honest at the moment I don't have the money directly. Business is going very badly, buses are standing still and school is closed. Otherwise it wouldn't be a problem.
Please give me a good price for it.
Greetings Rolf
09.02.21, 21:39 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- again my exact dates
-- das Opfer / the vcictim --
47506 Neukirchen Vluhn
Poststrasse 28
Germany
Mobile 0157/30952284
Email rolli27651@web.de
09.02.21, 22:28 - +44 7563 201744: Tell me how much you want to pay?
09.02.21, 22:52 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- what should the Lehmanni cost?
Can make a monthly offer of 100 euros
09.02.21, 23:20 - +44 7563 201744: 200 euros
09.02.21, 23:20 - +44 7563 201744: I will accept
09.02.21, 23:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I understood correctly Red couple Lehmanni 200 euros in installments of 2 times 100 euros
That would be great. Then I would suggest not sending Yellow Bastimentos, but the Lehmanni couple that would be okay
09.02.21, 23:27 - +44 7563 201744: OK
09.02.21, 23:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, I'm happy and thank you very much for that.
09.02.21, 23:59 - +44 7563 201744: You're welcome.
10.02.21, 11:54 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- tomorrow my friend all right?
I look forward to my animals and how you meet me.
THE question I now have is that I have a frog friend close by who is of course particularly interested in OPHAGAS AND LEHMANNI. He can speak English and my question is can I convey and give him your phone number?
I told him that he could get rarities at Ophagas and such from you, but didn't say any prices that you would agree with me and make. Can I give him your number and you guys have a chat?
Was interested in Rote Lehmanni. He knows about the pair of 400-450 euros, I said. He doesn't know anything about my prices and it should stay that way.
Greetings Rolf
10.02.21, 13:23 - +44 7563 201744: Yes you can him my phone number.
10.02.21, 13:23 - +44 7563 201744: Thanks for that
10.02.21, 13:23 - +44 7563 201744: .
10.02.21, 13:47 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- gladly no thanks for that among serious and good frog friends who I trust you do that. I hope you see it the same way and I get good prices for me and renewed information when something new is available.
10.02.21, 13:52 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- gladly no thanks for that among serious and good frog friends who I trust you do that. I hope you see it the same way and I get good prices for me and renewed information when something new is available.
10.02.21, 14:44 - +44 7563 201744: Sure of course
10.02.21, 14:50 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- oKAY I'm looking forward to seeing my animals from you soon.
So again I get one pair each
Wise Bastimentos
Escudo Kois
Lehmanni red
Isn't it correct?
10.02.21, 16:46 - +44 7563 201744: Yes correct.
10.02.21, 17:46 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- my friend has my colleague already contacted you?
10.02.21, 17:46 - +44 7563 201744: No he has not.
10.02.21, 17:57 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- but he wrote you a Whatts app I gave him your no.
10.02.21, 17:58 - +44 7563 201744: No I never received any message from him.
10.02.21, 18:26 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- He just asked me that I should please send you his mobile number and that you also try it via Whatts app.
He speaks English well and asks for a reply.
His number is
O172 7336974
Greetings Rolf
10.02.21, 18:35 - +44 7563 201744: He already send me message.
10.02.21, 19:16 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hey my friend, what should the animals cost for the friend the Rote Lehmanni?
If he didn't understand that correctly, it wasn't 400 euros per pair plus 120 euros shipping.
But not 400 euros per piece.
10.02.21, 19:18 - +44 7563 201744: Lehmanni is expensive the real price is 400 euros
Shipping for it is 120 euros it is different from bastimentos
10.02.21, 19:19 - +44 7563 201744: I gave you enough discount because you bought me many animals and for future business.
10.02.21, 19:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- is clearly not a problem only 400.-Euro for the couple and not the piece as you say.
Right?
10.02.21, 19:29 - +44 7563 201744: No I mean 400 euro for a piece
10.02.21, 19:30 - +44 7563 201744: I can give it for 300 euro a pieces
10.02.21, 19:32 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay, I'm very grateful to you about it, I understand and gladly again and again.
I don't want to know a percentage for the friend, I just want to know if it stays at 400.- Euro per pair for him and 120.- Euro shipping that he would do and you have to make it out of me.
10.02.21, 19:37 - +44 7563 201744: Yes it stays
10.02.21, 19:37 - +44 7563 201744: But can also give little discount
10.02.21, 19:48 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I only meant well and you have to get along.
I am so far satisfied with you and do not want to jeopardize our frog friendship for that I have too much trust in you.
10.02.21, 19:57 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- it is enough and I accept that if you give me discounts and find that more than correct.
What you do with the others that I convey to you, you decide very clearly.
I don't want our friendship to die.
10.02.21, 21:05 - +44 7563 201744: What do you want?
10.02.21, 21:05 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand what you mean?
10.02.21, 21:06 - +44 7563 201744: Don't your friend accept the price?
10.02.21, 21:08 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I don't know that is a well-known frog friend, I only mediated.
I just know if and when my animals will come and if it's safe.
10.02.21, 21:20 - +44 7563 201744: It will be safe I quarantee you that.
10.02.21, 21:20 - +44 7563 201744: I have discussed with your friend I gave you prices and pictures of animals
10.02.21, 21:21 - +44 7563 201744: Is he serious and interested to buy?
10.02.21, 21:25 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- he has to decide that.
For me it is interesting and important that I get my animals and not be cheated if you understand what I mean.
10.02.21, 21:33 - +44 7563 201744: What do you mean cheated?
Did I cheat you or look like I will cheat you?
10.02.21, 21:40 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no, but so far I haven't got anything and hope that everything is okay.
10.02.21, 21:42 - +44 7563 201744: But the scheduled 15th February to 20th February
10.02.21, 21:42 - +44 7563 201744: Why are you talking like this?
10.02.21, 22:28 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Honestly, I'm slowly getting a little pissed off, I've been waiting for my animals since January 28, 2021 and what's zero. I now rely 100% that I will receive the animals assigned to me from you by February 20th, 2021.
At the moment I feel held back a little.
10.02.21, 22:55 - +44 7563 201744: What do you mean and why are you bringing this up, I thought everything was clear and understood.
10.02.21, 22:56 - +44 7563 201744: Is someone who telling you otherwise?
10.02.21, 22:59 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no, I only want to be 10% sure and get a guarantee from you that I will get what I have to get.
10.02.21, 23:06 - +44 7563 201744: I don't like this question. How many time will I give you quarantee?
10.02.21, 23:07 - +44 7563 201744: Why you have not received animals was a little mistake
10.02.21, 23:11 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay I have tolerated that until now and now it can be done well by getting my goods, I wait and I am still excited.
10.02.21, 23:13 - +44 7563 201744: Don't get me offended
10.02.21, 23:13 - +44 7563 201744: Is this what your friend told you?
10.02.21, 23:14 - +44 7563 201744: I thought he came to buy animals not knowing he is here for inspection
10.02.21, 23:21 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- 1. I did not offend you
2. Isn't that a friend but a frog friend who asked me about frogs and not me him.
I just want my animals with papers and nothing else just for information.
There are now two options I am sorry either until February 20th. My animals or my money back.
I'm sorry
10.02.21, 23:32 - +44 7563 201744: I will ignore you and pretend I didn't listen to all this you just said.
10.02.21, 23:35 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- if you think I want what is due to me and ask yourself reasonably when can I count on it please?
11.02.21, 11:07 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hey, I hope not that you disappoint me so much and abuse my trust.
I am not interested in what others are doing, it is about me, the goods or animals that I have bought from you and the commitment and trust. The person has noticed that the photos of the frogs are fake and now I make you a good proposal that I can trust you. Just send me a current photo, just a coin next to the Dealy News newspaper with today's date and you have my full confidence. Or please send me back the money I have paid from your bank that I know from Berlin and the matter is done without a comment, it's that simple. But if I get the animals etc. the joy is twice as great and everything is good. Now it's your turn. Proposal for good. The photo with gloves where the escudos are sitting on are exactly the hands of Sidney and what he has on his ass with his wife is known across Europe.
Just say Customs Investigation Essen in Germany Mrs. Eva Maria Leikenjost.
11.02.21, 17:05 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I'm still curious whether it's top or flop. If it's top everything is okay, no problems.
If it is a flop, there are damn problems across Europe through our department.
Would be an advantage
Goods arrive well or money back is also all well.
Please think carefully.
Simply ignoring usually leads to trouble.
Better be honest, we get everything out and then it gets nasty.
11.02.21, 17:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/ruhrgebiet/zoll-befreit-100-pfeilgiftfroesche-von-tierhaendeler-100.html
11.02.21, 17:26 - +44 7563 201744: This is your last warning
11.02.21, 17:27 - +44 7563 201744: The courier sent you email and explained to you everything that happened and assured you when you will receive your animals 15th - 20th February
11.02.21, 17:27 - +44 7563 201744: And just yesterday after your friend you gave my number said he want to buy animal pass.
11.02.21, 17:27 - +44 7563 201744: You started talking to me as if I cheated you or lied to you.
11.02.21, 17:28 - +44 7563 201744: Look if you talk to me in such disrespectful manner again you won't believe what I will do.
11.02.21, 17:28 - +44 7563 201744: I have had enough of this your ranting.
11.02.21, 17:28 - +44 7563 201744: What is today's date?
11.02.21, 17:29 - +44 7563 201744: Is today 15th February?
11.02.21, 17:29 - +44 7563 201744: I will not tolerate this again. You are warned.
11.02.21, 17:29 - +44 7563 201744: Do you think you can threaten me?
11.02.21, 17:30 - +44 7563 201744: Do you think I am afraid of you?
11.02.21, 17:30 - +44 7563 201744: Be careful how you talk to me.
11.02.21, 17:41 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- again it's not my friend.
And I am not angry with you yet. I would just like to have this clarified in advance. The chance and trust is still correct. It is not yet 15.
If everything goes like this until February 20th, you are an absolute Faerer frog friend for me, no question about it, then I am also ready to take everything I think back to you in writing and that anyway when the animals are on the table here at my home . I am fair and I also think you should wait and see.
11.02.21, 17:44 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- again before we get excited we wait the 15-20. 2. from then on we see okay.
12.02.21, 13:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hey so I want exactly I don't want anything bad on the contrary, I don't trust you, I don't disappoint me. I expect everything to work from February 15, 2021. I honestly do not believe that you are partially betraying a disabled physical person.
greeting
14.02.21, 13:23 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Hello my friend just wanted to report me Tomorrow is February 15, 2021 and the countdown is running, I am waiting for the broadcast and hope you keep your word and everything will be fine.
14.02.21, 14:18 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- i expect answer and facts no more please.
15.02.21, 10:31 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- tomorrow when can I count on the animals please?
Greetings Rolf
15.02.21, 10:33 - +44 7563 201744: I have gone to their office they are asking for shipping fee before the will ship.
15.02.21, 10:57 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So they want to fool you and me?
Allegedly, as I see it on the receipt here, you paid shipping costs the first time and they screwed up and confirmed that free shipping on 15.2 will be delivered again in the week so please.
15.02.21, 10:59 - +44 7563 201744: I want to use another shipping company.
15.02.21, 11:04 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay you have the chance that should happen as soon as possible without delaying I expect the animals please have the terrarium walls ready as soon as possible. I'm counting on you.
15.02.21, 11:04 - +44 7563 201744: I don't understand what you mean
15.02.21, 11:04 - +44 7563 201744: What terrarium?
15.02.21, 11:05 - +44 7563 201744: You have to pay the shipping cost not me.
15.02.21, 11:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I mean my terrarium walls that I built into the wall. The 4 terraces are ready and can finally be equipped.
15.02.21, 11:10 - +44 7563 201744: OK then send the shipping fee to my account right now so that I will proceed immediately with shipping.
15.02.21, 11:15 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So you're just writing me, I don't need to pay shipping costs, which I won't do either.
And now not with an officer like me. Send the animals then we'll see okay
15.02.21, 11:17 - +44 7563 201744: I am not a joker, I am a serious businessman. How do you except me to pay shipping after giving some animals free to you.
15.02.21, 11:18 - +44 7563 201744: I went to submit the animals this morning and I got the message from the shipping company that I have to pay new shipping and I decided to go to another shipping company.
15.02.21, 11:23 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Mr. businessman 1. I have not yet received an animal and say the terms and conditions. Advance payments in Germany without receipt of the goods is a criminal offense and not permitted.
And nothing is predicted.
Only then can you continue to see the goods, which your bank in Berlin will also be able to confirm.
15.02.21, 11:28 - +44 7563 201744: Don't you ever threaten me, I know my business t&c and I have done everything never bridged any bargain or transactions. You are the one who needs to do the needful.
15.02.21, 11:40 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- I would do that but the animals have to be there first. Nothing works here before.
And how much would the shipping be?
15.02.21, 11:43 - +44 7563 201744: 100 euros.
15.02.21, 11:53 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no problem with delivery but not in advance.
You don't pay beforehand when shopping, but when the goods are in the basket.
So first the goods properly with papers then the other. As an honest businessman you should know. There's a paragraph about it.
15.02.21, 12:09 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So your decision what will be done I expect my animals from you and everything else would be done positively.
15.02.21, 12:13 - +44 7563 201744: What do you mean? Your animals was shipped but due to the mistake from the courier not me. Your animals have been prepared and I am in the shipping company where I want to submit it for shipping but shipping fee has to be paid before it is shipped. I am a good and honest businessman and I have been good and honest to you from the beginning.
15.02.21, 12:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- you write to me you are a fair businessman, I still believe it then show me and get into the aisles and don't hold me off like that. Do not want to lose faith in your honesty.
15.02.21, 12:22 - +44 7563 201744: I am not the one to pay for the shipping cost, you are the one to pay for it. When I receive it I will ship.
15.02.21, 12:23 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- okay me too so let's do it as usual.
Is not a problem you pay the 100 Euro shipping costs in advance on the spot. When the animals are with me, you get the shipping costs immediately transferred to the account I know in Berlin no problem. And if you don't accept that it is unfortunately very business questionable. And that is called a case of fraud in Germany, which according to the species protection authority is very highly punished with protected animals. Just for information.
15.02.21, 12:24 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- again only the goods then the shipping costs.
15.02.21, 12:25 - +44 7563 201744: I will not do that, I will not pay shipping, it is your responsibility. Don't you ever threaten me again of fraud. I am warning you. I have been honest to you.
15.02.21, 12:36 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- So now it's over for me with Lustig a customs broker like me the animals bought from you threatening to be a criminal offense. I olled animals for myself but I will now initiate criminal proceedings in the foreseeable future along with a ban on vekaufsfeaks in Germany to anniemize with pictures from the net. Furthermore, refer to another account request and initiate a cross-border criminal procedure at the address we have.
Got information from the bank that you have received the money for it, I have the receipts and as you want it to be, I will initiate this here at the office.
15.02.21, 12:49 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- give the chance to accept that and I get the animals as promised as a private person or the 2nd possibility then as an employee from the office to initiate a fraud experience with all the consequences for you.
15.02.21, 12:57 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- To put yourself in danger for 100 euros is really cool, honestly, I have dealt with a lot of smugglers and fraudsters is on the phone and is too stupid himself and has no idea about prices, etc. Even the bank account in Berlin is of no use. So it's up to you either top or flop
15.02.21, 13:10 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no problem also bank details are known to me only briefly for knowledge
Solaris Bank AG
10178 Berlin
Ana-Louisa- Karschstrasse 2
Blz 11010100
This is what my colleagues told me. You can see that is only a small part of what can come with the big cake.
Everything is in your hands You have verifiably received money from me I have not yet received any goods that is clearly tried and since you have the amount clear fraud with wrong connections in several cases. Think carefully.
Before going to the UK
121 Honor Daklasch
Upper maisonette SE233
LD LONDON UK go out of the house which is better for you or you honesty or cheating.
15.02.21, 19:22 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- you now have all the possibilities in the world and until February 20th, 2021 just as you said it was time.
After that it looks bad or my money back is also quiet. You don't fool a Z. officer.
Because we are smarter than deceivers.
15.02.21, 21:05 - +44 7563 201744: You have a very big problem thinking you can threaten me.
15.02.21, 21:06 - +44 7563 201744: You think I am afraid of this your nonsense talks
15.02.21, 21:06 - +44 7563 201744: One more of this world I see you are not serious I will block you you can then do your worse.
15.02.21, 21:11 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- no problem we know who you are
15.02.21, 21:12 - +44 7563 201744: Really
15.02.21, 21:12 - +44 7563 201744: Who am I?
15.02.21, 21:56 - +44 7563 201744: You don't know who I am.
16.02.21, 12:18 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- Also Ermittlungen haben bis her ergeben das die Fotos aus einer Facebook Seite aus Amerika sind. Es wird weiter Ermittelt.
16.02.21, 13:11 - +44 7563 201744: You are s big fool
16.02.21, 13:11 - +44 7563 201744: Continue fooling yourself.
16.02.21, 13:14 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- keep it up hope dies last I wait for goods then I will apologize. Nothing works here before.
17.02.21, 13:56 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- well the deception always comes closer
KEVIN Hoff
from Savanna Georiga
There is still time for the truth and animals.
18.02.21, 18:20 - -- das Opfer / the vcictim -- should I not until the promised 20.2. No animals or my money back my friend will be interested in the LKA.
Because we are smarter than you cheat you rely on we get you even after years no matter if you are a man or a woman.
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